I understand that the questions here are probably way confused. I would
really appreciate it if someone just quickly answered them so that I at
least know which direction to move in. If I could read up on it someplace I
would, but I've been out of luck finding a clear source.

thank you
humble newbie

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Ivan Trajkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> thanks guys, I'll look into it
> just to check, the IL allows me to expose POJO's directly to the workflows
> so that I can orchestrate them knowing that no SOAP exchanges will happen?
> that is my goal, to know that the worfklow is executed in-process without OS
> calls for networking (there's a possibility that thats a dump statement
> since WSDL is used to define services and there might not be any option to
> have methods exposed "by default" without WSDL's being required). I
> understand that its a basic question, but I just want to make sure. I just
> realized that IL might be API's for providing core internal services to the
> ODE engine that are needed for its internal functioning, and not exposed to
> third-party processes...
> thank you for the prompt responses and for somewhat confusing set of
> questions
>
> Ivan
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Alex Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Ivan,
>> >
>> > A good place to start, if you haven't looked yet, is to browse the
>> > Integration Layer API,
>> >
>> >
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ode/branches/APACHE_ODE_1.X/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/
>> >
>> > or in the trunk where we've made some refactoring for better transaction
>> > and
>> > reliable messaging suppport,
>> >
>> >
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/
>> >
>> > You'll find all the interfaces for the IL as well as interfaces the
>> engine
>> > exposes to the outside world.
>> >
>> > You can also take a look at the existing implementations (Axis2 and JBI)
>> to
>> > get a better understanding and starting  for the implementation, since
>> > there
>> > are usually (some) pieces that can be reused across ILs.
>> >
>>
>> To complement the list, there's also an IL for ODE in Tuscany:
>>
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel-ode/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/
>>
>> The EmbeddedODEServer is a good starting point as it wires up the strict
>> minimum resources necessary for ODE to run.
>>
>> Matthieu
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Ask questions if you need help...
>> >
>> > alex
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Ivan Trajkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > hello everyone
>> > > Im pretty intrigued about ODE's capabilities, and would like to start
>> > > integrating it into my new system.
>> > > I was wondering if there was a place where I could read up more about
>> how
>> > > to
>> > > go about integrating my classes into the Integration Layer so to have
>> > those
>> > > functions available as services from within my BPEL processes. I would
>> > > prefer this approach to avoid slowdowns/inefficiencies due to SOAP
>> > > parsing/transmission. The classes are written in Scala, but this is a
>> > > non-issue since it all compiles down to JVM bytecode and looks the
>> same
>> > to
>> > > ODE at runtime.
>> > > Im still not sure how well this would scale, and Im assuming that it
>> > would
>> > > pretty much mean that I would have to make my class methods
>> > > re-entrant/stateless.
>> > > I've looked at the Javadocs but this is a pretty harsh way to start
>> from
>> > > scratch when there's no clue about what are the primary things to get
>> > > familiar with.
>> > >
>> > > thank you for your help, its very much appreciated.
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

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