>> The main thing missing in project documentation is dates. This dates are >> really useful to see project's health (how it's growing), and to know >> when to expect new stuff (for example, cluster support). >> > > I usually try to put dates in the news section of the main page although it > seems we haven't for the last 3 events. I've just added dates for the > releases. As for the roadmap we usually never put dates or estimates there. > It's highly dependent on who volunteers.
I saw the dates, thanks. About the roadmap, I understand what you mean. I just think that in these situations, dates are clearly just indicators. But it be really useful for people to understand priorities, and have a rough idea about what's probably coming. >> I see the project more focused on the core BPEL engine, and not that >> much in enterprise features (like Human Task support, clustering, >> security, transactions) >> > > Not necessarily. Although historically we've tried to do BPEL right before > implementing enterprise features. But now we have a task manager that's > taking shape in the sandbox ( > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ode/sandbox/singleshot/), support for > several security features has been gradually improved (a recent commit added > WS-Security with Rampart) and I think Karthick is working on transaction > propagation and atomic scopes (note that we've had transaction support in > the engine since day 1). Ok, this are great news. And it's also what I've pointed out. I think that people watching at the project will be very interested in know about all this (and again, it's not a commitment, nor a deadline, just useful info). When you talk about transaction support you mean using the internal DB, right? I mean more the kind of transactional interaction with other parties. >> Is there also any way to organize the roadmap, so it'll be clearer which >> things are done, and what's next? > > We should work on that. > > >> >> I couldn't find info about release history or release plan. >> >> Do you know about any company providing commercial support? >> > > I know Intalio does. I've heard of a couple of other names but I don't know > what's their respective status so I'll let them speak for themselves. Ok. Yes, I've been looking at this project since some time now. There's also a kind of subproject in there called Tempo that looks very promising. One more question: have you been looking at the PVM (Process Virtual Machine, http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2007/05/07/the-process-virtual-machine.html)? As a brief intro, it's the "core" for jBPM, Orchestra, and other process engines. Thanks a lot! -- Andrés P. Ferrando http://www.pruna.com.ar/
