Have you considered setting up a proxy service that would handle retries or address rewriting? This would keep your BPEL simple since all of the changes are external to the BPEL and in fact external to ODE. Another option would be to modify the invoke layer for ODE to provide this behavior keyed off of WS-Policy. For a sample implementation of this policy, check out the docs here: http://tinyurl.com/ya4tmsk


On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Song Thuy Nguyen wrote:

Hi Marco,
Thanks for the fast answer and your suggestion, but the 2 links you gave me are not suitable for this problem. I read all the user manual of apache ode on the website before but didn't find any solution. The first link describes HOW endpoints can be represented, and the second one, as far as I understand describe is a way to manipulate endpoints on a process-wide level, and there
is also a second problem with this solution (copied from
http://ode.apache.org/endpoint-configuration.html):

" Dynamic refresh

Properties are dynamically loaded and refreshed at run time.
The timing is the following:
On every request, if the file has not been polled during the last 30 seconds
then check the file for updates. If any, reload it.

Consequently, if you have updated properties, you have to wait ~30 seconds
and then trigger a request."

so you have to wait up to 30s to see the changes taking effect. That's
"ages" considering you are stopping a running instance to replace an
endpoint and continue.

Looks like the 3rd suggestion is the only way to go. I'll let you know if I
find an applicable concrete solution.

Is there someone else with another solution for me? :)

Regards,

Thuy




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Marco Indaco [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2009 14:52
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: Changing Endpoints of a Process Instance at RUNTIME

Hi song,
i'am working on your own objective, in my research project.
There are many solution that you can investigate.

1) http://ode.apache.org/endpoint-references.html  see that link

2)Create, if monitor observes, for example, that a service is down, a
file .endpoint located in conf directory in Apache Ode. see that link
http://ode.apache.org/endpoint-configuration.html

3) A more intrusive operation for modify source code to added these
functionalites

If you are any idea please contact me...working together is powerful.

Hi, for any question ask me!!!

2009/12/15 Song Thuy Nguyen <[email protected]>:
Hi everyone,



I'm quite new to Apache ODE and mailing lists, hoping for your help.

As the title says I'm looking for a way to change service endpoints for
BPEL
process instances at runtime. That means that only one instance should be
affected by these changes, not the entire process and the deployment
descriptor. By convention of the project I'm working on, it is not allowed
to write a BPEL-process that looks up service endpoints at a registry
service, put it in an variable and use it as the dynamic endpoint. The reason is we want to provide a fault resistant BPEL process execution by replacing failing or unavailabe service endpoints by working ones with
transparency to the process. So there should be no sign of the "fault
handling" in the BPEL file. Failing services will be detected by a monitor
component, but this is not my part.

I have tried to look into the Management API for processes and instances
to
find a method that can provide a solution, but I had no luck. There are
only
methods to get and set endpoints on a process-wide level, on a instance
level however, those methods are not available.

It seems to me that the only way to get such a functionality is to extend the Instance Management API and write those methods myself, If this is
right, can someone please tell me where to start? Any help would be
appreciated.



Thank you in advance



Thuy



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