Jonathon, all,

Jonathon -- Improov wrote:
David (Jones),

What about those open source projects that are polished for OOTB convenience and experience? Even Apache (httpd) and Tomcat (both under Apache Licence 2.0?) have better OOTB "operational readiness" than OFBiz. Ie, they work well OOTB and they have very good and widely published docs to further fuel explosive rate of community development. (I understand you believe that approach won't benefit OFBiz; I don't know so I can't say.)
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I'm sorry to interfere with a mail addressed to David Jones (via the mailing list), but I think that my comments (not specifically addressed to this Jonathon's mail) are worth of consideration:

1) if it's not really necessary, I would not want to see David Jones time wasted reading/answering this kind of long messages about a subject discussed at least 1000 times; David is one of the best architects/developers in the project and we should all do our best to leave him concentrated in the most critical tasks that can make the project grow; in the last months I've noticed the bad habit to attempt to attract David (and other core developers as well) in long and unnecessary discussions

2) another very bad habit is to attribute to others your personal re-elaboration of what others said: in this way, if the concept is reported in an incomplete or incorrect way, you can create confusion to new users and oblige the person to jump in and correct it. As a general rule, never try to restate what you think that other said, just express your thoughts (if they are of interest for the project). For example, Jonathon said: "I understand you (David) believe that approach won't benefit OFBiz" I really don't think that David ever said something like this; the main point here is that OFBiz and Tomcat are totally different products (as discussed 10000 times).

In general #1, #2 are harmful habits for a project and we should avoid them.

Jacopo


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