I mean most of users of software just look at the headline that its an
open source source software.
And never go beyond that point reading the details or what we call fine prints.



On 4/7/07, David E. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't think it's any secret or anything. It really is stated very
clearly on the web pages for these packages:

http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/accounting.php
http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/open_source_crm.php
http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/HPLv1.1.txt

-David


On Apr 7, 2007, at 1:16 AM, Jonathon -- Improov wrote:

> David,
>
> Say I use Financials and CRMSFA, and my staff are using it over the
> internet.
>
> Does that mean I have to reveal any changes I make to those 2 modules?
>
> If so, that's odd. Or not so odd if OpenTaps was meant to be more
> commercial than free.
>
> If this is true, I'll be cutting out both modules from my own
> application.
>
> TIA for advice.
>
> Jonathon
>
> David E. Jones wrote:
>> The trick is that the GPL is not clear on whether or not making an
>> application available over the internet constitutes distribution...
>> Of course, the OSS/opentaps financials and crmsfa modules are not
>> GPL licensed, they are HPL licensed which explicitly states that
>> making them available over the internet DOES constitute
>> distribution. This gets to be a pain because the configurations
>> and everything are HPL licensed, so if you don't want to reveal
>> your business setup, you should buy a license.
>> Actually it's more complicated than that... Technically Open
>> Source Strategies has a signed contract to license the financials
>> module at least under the GPL license because of the history of
>> the early development of it, so they shouldn't be distributing it
>> under the HPL license. We haven't pushed them on that, but that is
>> in a real legal document. The crmsfa one on the other hand is not
>> so encumbered.
>> -David
>> On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Jonathon -- Improov wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> That license only requires you to deliver your private source
>>> codes if you:
>>>
>>> 1. Change original codes licensed under GPL
>>>
>>> 2. Distribute/sell the new package.
>>>
>>> Say you enhance OpenTaps for your own use, and you call the new
>>> package MyOwnApp. If you only ever use MyOwnApp in your own
>>> computers, and never distribute/sell MyOwnApp, you will never
>>> have to release the source codes in MyOwnApp.
>>>
>>> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong?
>>>
>>> Jonathon
>>>
>>> Scott A wrote:
>>>> I've looked at Opentaps and agree that it would be a good start
>>>> and it is in
>>>> fact how I got to ofbiz originally but I would like to see it in
>>>> the core of
>>>> ofbiz. As I understand it at the moment, opentaps is distributed
>>>> with a totally
>>>> different license and while I don't know all of the legal
>>>> ramifications, I
>>>> am told by the people that I trust most that it would be a
>>>> mistake for me to
>>>> start developing industry specific extensions based on that
>>>> license. While I am am not opposed to sharing enhancements and
>>>> giving back to the
>>>> community, my industry specific mods are going to be for me
>>>> only. I hope you
>>>> understand.
>>>> Walter Vaughan wrote:
>>>>> Scott A wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like I said, I am a user plain and simple so I can't get into
>>>>>> all of the
>>>>>> technical side of things. All I know is that I would like a
>>>>>> CRM portion
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> ofbiz similar to how Sugar CRM works but with a good and solid
>>>>>> email
>>>>>> client
>>>>>> built in. I guess it would take someone with the interest and
>>>>>> technical
>>>>>> ability to put the requirements together first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, I can only contribute with my wants and needs and
>>>>>> some cash.
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> be willing to throw $1000 into the hat to get this type of
>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where do I go from here?
>>>>> Have you looked at the Opentaps CRM-SFA modules for ofBiz?
>>>>> https://demo.opensourcestrategies.com:8445/crmsfa/control/login
>>>>>
>>>>> It's fully integrated with ofBiz and has a Ajax style email
>>>>> client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe what you need is already available. If it's not, I'd like
>>>>> to hear
>>>>> what you need that I may not have already considered.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Walter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>


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