Peter,

Sorry it took me so long to take a peek at this...

My guess is that the calculation process is not what you are expected, namely in terms of when the rounding is done and such.

In order to spot exactly what is going on we need to see exactly how you are doing your calculations to check the numbers. This goes back to the common questions we need answers to in order to understand a bug report, namely:

1. what did you expect to happen?
2. what happened?
3. how was it different than what you expected?

What we need in order for this discussion to make progress and not continue to flounder, and to see if and what the problem might be, is to describe this step by step. To really check things I'd also recommend using a hand calculator to reproduce the steps and then you'll have more control over what is happening.

My guess is that the lack of helpful replies stems from the fact that there are insufficient details here to spot what might be going wrong.

In other words, something like:

0: start
35.74: add product price of 35.74
41.9945: add tax of 6.2545
41.995: round to three digits using ROUNG_HALF_UP method

Also, instead of using arbitrary numbers, please use something that is in OFBiz itself so that people reviewing this can test it for themselves and see what is happening. The best way to do this is to describe a set of steps on demo.hotwaxmedia.com, which is just a stock demo of OFBiz with the demo data in place and that is updated daily.

-David



On Apr 18, 2007, at 2:33 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,


I have tried 10 digits, exact same problem.

salestax.calc.decimals = 10


Can anyone offer some assistance.


Thanks & Regards,

Peter

________________________________________
From: Scott Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 April 2007 01:27
To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Return of...Inaccurate Calculation of Order

Peter

Change this line:
salestax.calc.decimals = 10
and see if that gives you the results you are expecting.

Regards
Scott
On 18/04/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,





There is something very odd about the way Ofbiz calculates tax (in the order
manager).



Using this model from Excel;

US$                price    tax       p+tax

Product1         35.74   6.2545 41.995

Product2         35.74   6.2545 41.995

Shipping          6.00     1.050 7.050

Total               77.48   (3 digit)

Tax                 13.56   13.559

-------------------------------------------------

Grand Total     91.04   91.039





Method1 gives 91.05

Method2 gives 91.03



Tried each of the different big-decimal rounding scheme, not give the value
I was expecting (91.04 ). I get either 91.03 or 91.05





From the arithmetic.properties file;



METHOD1

# Most companies would want their sales tax calculations ALWAYS to round up
(ie, 100.081 becomes 100.09)

# This could be ROUND_CEILING or ROUND_UP.  (The difference is that
ROUND_CEILING rounds towards positive infinity,

# ROUND_UP away from zero. So, for 1.13, both ROUND_UP and ROUND_CEILING
will round to 1.2, but for -1.13,

# ROUND_UP gives you -1.2 and ROUND_CEILING -1.1.)

salestax.calc.decimals = 2

salestax.final.decimals = 2

salestax.rounding = ROUND_HALF_UP



METHOD2

# Most companies would want their sales tax calculations ALWAYS to round up
(ie, 100.081 becomes 100.09)

# This could be ROUND_CEILING or ROUND_UP.  (The difference is that
ROUND_CEILING rounds towards positive infinity,

# ROUND_UP away from zero. So, for 1.13, both ROUND_UP and ROUND_CEILING
will round to 1.2, but for -1.13,

# ROUND_UP gives you -1.2 and ROUND_CEILING -1.1.)

salestax.calc.decimals = 3

salestax.final.decimals = 2

salestax.rounding = ROUND_HALF_UP





Thanks & Regards,



Peter



  _____

From: Tim Ruppert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2007 19:06
To: [email protected]
Cc: 'Chris Howe'
Subject: Re: The Return of...Inaccurate Calculation of Order



He means - kill the process - and then restart it. Shut it down and start it

up.





Cheers,

Tim

--

Tim Ruppert

HotWax Media

http://www.hotwaxmedia.com



o:801.649.6594

f:801.649.6595







On Apr 16, 2007, at 12:02 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Hi Chris,





Thanks very much for your quick response.



Exactly do you mean by 'restart ofbiz', by your definition?





Thanks & Regards,



Peter



-----Original Message-----

From: Chris Howe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 16 April 2007 18:04

To: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: The Return of...Inaccurate Calculation of Order



Hi Peter,



You need to restart OFBiz, not just clear the cache. Hope that helps.





--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi,





Sure hope you can help with this, I have been going around in

circles.



I am having a problem with the way that Ofbiz calculates tax and

order

totals.



From what I can gather, the file

'./applications/accounting/config/arithmetic.properties' controls the

rounding and digit length for the calculation of taxes & order

totals.



I am starting to think the changes I make to the file are not being

applied,

I say this because when I look at the 'Unit Price' in an order it

shows

35.742, rather than 35.74. Which would tend to indicate that settings

are

not being used because the number of decimal points in each of the

settings

in 'arithmetic.properties ' are set to 2 digits. I have pasted in the

contents of the 'arithmetic.properties' file below so you can have a

look. I

have changed the 'rounding' to a different method to try to achieve

the

correct figures.



There is only a disparity of +0.1 but, technically it is wrong. Ofbiz

keeps

giving me a total of 91.05, but it should be 91.04. I am been given a

hard

time about it...



Essentially;



Using Excel;

US$     tax      p+tax

Product1         35.74   6.2545 41.995

Product2         35.74   6.2545 41.995

Shipping           6.00     1.050 7.050

Total    77.48  (3 digit)

Tax      13.56  13.559

------------------------

Grand Total     91.04   91.039



Simply put, I think that the problem is a combination of two issues;

(i). Ofbiz uses 3 digits, not 2 digits (I would like to use 2

digits).

and

(ii). Uses rounding 'ROUND_HALF_UP', I would tend to use

'ROUND_HALF_DOWN'.

I think the ' arithmetic.properties' file below, should do the trick.

But it

doesn't seem to being 'applied' to the calculation.





So I have two Questions;



1). (BIGGEST ISSUE) Do I have to 'activate' the

'arithmetic.properties'

file, and if so how do I do that? (All I have been doing is clearing

the

cache and logging out then logging in again, as I had been told this

is the

way to do it).

2). Do you see my point about 94.05 and 94.04, and the best way to

make this

calculation?





---CONTENTS OF---



.../Ofbiz/trunk/applications/accounting/config/arithmetic.properties





#

# Arithmetic properties for configuring BigDecimal calculations

#



# For setting decimal precision and rounding method of operations

related to

invoices

invoice.decimals = 2

invoice.rounding = ROUND_HALF_DOWN



# For setting decimal precision and rounding method of operations

related to

orders,

# such as shopping cart amounts and order amounts

order.decimals = 2

order.rounding = ROUND_HALF_DOWN



# For setting decimal precision and rounding method of operations

related to

customer accounts

# such as Financial Accounts

finaccount.decimals = 2

finaccount.rounding = ROUND_HALF_DOWN



# Most companies would want their sales tax calculations ALWAYS to

round up

(ie, 100.081 becomes 100.09)

# This could be ROUND_CEILING or ROUND_UP. (The difference is that

ROUND_CEILING rounds towards positive infinity,

# ROUND_UP away from zero. So, for 1.13, both ROUND_UP and

ROUND_CEILING

will round to 1.2, but for -1.13,

# ROUND_UP gives you -1.2 and ROUND_CEILING - 1.1.)

salestax.calc.decimals = 2

salestax.final.decimals = 2

salestax.rounding = ROUND_HALF_DOWN







Thanks & Regards,



Peter





________________________________________



On 05/04/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Scott,





Just strikes me that the file should be 'correct' for everyone. What

would

be your guidance as to what the file should be?



Appreciate your fast responses this evening. It is 1:15am here in the

UK

just can't stay awake any more.





Thanks & Regards,



Peter







________________________________________

From: Scott Gray [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 05 April 2007 01:16

To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Subject: Re: Inaccurate Calculation of Order



Here is the configuration file, you can change the settings to

whatever you

want them to be:



http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/accounting/ config/arit


hmetic.properties?view=markup



From the default settings, it looks like calculation takes place at 3

digits

then gets rounded up to 2 places.



Regards

Scott

On 05/04/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,





There must be something we are missing here. This can't be a bug,

someone

would have noticed already. Especially something so fundimental.





Thanks & Regards,



Peter





-----Original Message-----

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 05 April 2007 00:11

To: '[email protected] '

Subject: RE: Inaccurate Calculation of Order

Importance: High



Hi,





Whichever way I work it out the Order Entry system does seem to be

slightly

out.





From Excel...



Price tax 2 digits tax 3 digits tax 9

digits



Product 1 35.74 6.25 6.255

6.254500000

Product 2 35.74 6.25 6.255

6.254500000

shipping 6 1.05 1.050



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