Many thanks for all your help, the problem is now solved

I had many crossed confilcts with differnet java packs / run time
environments and complilers etc etc etc etc

my suggestion, actually what i did for others having the same problem....

this all started with not knowing which java developers pack to use so the
first search done was the line that was followed.

wrong.... the current version of java is 1.6 thereabouts. try to find the
pages that only mention this version.

because i downloades an olderversion which was in the path variable, new
version downloads and installs were not effective.

hence... i took drastic action, flying blind i believe it is called. simply
put i uninstalled every thing under controll panel win xp that mentioned
java. runtime environments etc.....

then i installed the one package only i.e version 6 aka '1.6' se sdk the se
seems important --- standard edition.

tears of joy followed when it all started to work correctly.

now the task is to try and understand how this is all built.
????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks again 

matt
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