Ohhh,

Is this the only way left for me that I'll have to go for serial interface
card for my printer? It is really ridiculous that EPSON is manufacturing
printer with parallel cable but having factory settings to serial, something
really difficult to understand, also the ADK is coming only for serial..so
we've no way !!

What do you say, will this card work for us? (I think it is working in your
case !!) Also configuration of this card is again a marathon or a cake walk?

Now I'm scared of this EPSON totally.. :)

Thanks Branden




Branden Strickland wrote:
> 
> HAH!
> 
> Yeah thats it.  As of now, Epson ADK doesn't support parrallel.  Your DIP
> switches are probably factory defaulted to Serial, and the communication
> wires and protocols are day and night.  I would go to somewhere cheap,
> purchase
> this<http://www.posguys.com/receipt-printer_12/Epson-TM-T88IV_694/C823361_5381/>.
> It's the serial interface card for the tm-t88iv.  You can just slide the
> old
> Parallel one out, (thats what I had to do, because mine came with it as
> well!) and put the new serial one in.
> 
> I'm not suggesting going to posguys.  Where ever you want to buy it from
> is
> obviously up to you, but you need to get that particular part, because
> using
> hardware converters is NOT going to work....I've tried ;)
> 
> Hope this gets you running in the right direction.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Ajey.bitin <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Branden,
>>
>> I forgot to let you know one thing, I think my problem is that I'm using
>> LPT1. I got my EPSON TM-T88IV printer with parallel cable but SetupPOS
>> doesn't have a port type option for parallel. How I can configure the
>> printer with SetupPOS in this case?
>>
>> Is this the reason why I'm getting my printer status as always off? Can a
>> right DB9 - DB25 cable and using serial COM1 instead will solve this
>> issue?
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Ajey Kumar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Branden Strickland wrote:
>> >
>> > are you sure your serial port is plugged in correctly and is enabled in
>> > the
>> > BIOS?
>> >
>> > We need to get that blackbox running before we do anything else.  There
>> is
>> > a
>> > reason it's telling you it can't find the serial port.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Ajey.bitin <
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Branden, i tried to work with BlackBox, its showing the message "No
>> >> Serial
>> >> Port found" when I used this "java BlackBox" command.
>> >>
>> >> Also I placed the javax.comm.properties file to
>> >> specialpurpose\pos\config,
>> >> framework\base\config and framework\base\lib
>> >>
>> >> But the result is same, I'm not able to get my printer working.
>> Suggest
>> >> me
>> >> the needful.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Branden Strickland wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > well the javax.comm.properties must be moved (or copied) to what
>> ever
>> >> root
>> >> > directory (or added to the path I'm told?!?! but I'm not sure)
>> you're
>> >> > running stuff from.  Temporarily I have my javax.comm.properties in
>> my
>> >> > /ofbizROOT.  I was getting that "not described in XML" erorr and
>> moving
>> >> > the
>> >> > file to the root OFBIZ directory fixed it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you tried getting the blackbox Java App to work?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Ajey.bitin <
>> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I installed fresh java comm api and placed the files on following
>> >> >> location:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> comm.jar is placed in:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>    %JAVA_HOME%/lib
>> >> >>    %JAVA_HOME%/jre/lib/ext
>> >> >>
>> >> >> win32com.dll is placed in:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>    %JAVA_HOME%/bin
>> >> >>    %JAVA_HOME%/jre/bin
>> >> >>    %windir%System32
>> >> >>
>> >> >> javax.comm.properties in:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>    %JAVA_HOME%/lib
>> >> >>    %JAVA_HOME%/jre/lib
>> >> >>
>> >> >> After that I also placed latest RXTX jars and DLL in my JDK folder
>> >> like
>> >> >> this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> RXTXcomm.jar in \jre\lib\ext (under java)
>> >> >> rxtxSerial.dll in \jre\bin
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've also placed javax.comm.properties in setupPOS directory of
>> EPSON.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But again I'm getting the same exception when I'm trying to use
>> >> >> CheckHealth:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Epson CheckHealth Report ErrorCode: 107
>> >> >> ErrorCodeExtended: 5008
>> >> >> Message:
>> >> >> The power supply of the device is off.
>> >> >> !! StackTrace !!
>> >> >> jpos.JposException: The power supply of the device is off. at
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.init.AbstractPrinterInitialization.getRealtimeStatus(Unknown
>> >> >> source) ………………………………….
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But the exception is now changed when I'm trying to run my OFBiz
>> >> >> application, its showing this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:40:59,625 (main) [ClassLoaderContainer.java:50 :INFO
>> ]
>> >> >> CachedClassLoader created
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:00,812 (main) [    ContainerLoader.java:74 :INFO ]
>> >> >> [Startup] Starting containers...
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:01,890 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:123:ERROR]
>> >> >> ---- exception report
>> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> JPOS Exception
>> >> >> Exception: jpos.JposException
>> >> >> Message: The information is not described in XML.
>> >> >> ---- stack trace
>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> jpos.JposException: The information is not described in XML.
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.CommonPrinterService.initializeClassSetting(Unknown
>> >> >> Source)
>> >> >> jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.CommonPrinterService.open(Unknown Source)
>> >> >> jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:46)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:119)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(JposDeviceContainer.java:52)
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:80)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:263)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:314)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:318)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:404)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:01,984 (main) [JposDeviceContainer.java:54 :INFO ]
>> >> >> ******************************************************
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:02,000 (main) [JposDeviceContainer.java:55 :INFO ]
>> >> >> Please
>> >> >> verify that your receipt printer is connected !
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:02,000 (main) [JposDeviceContainer.java:56 :INFO ]
>> >> >> ******************************************************
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:02,218 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>> >> >> ContainerLoader.java:93
>> >> >> :INFO ] Shutting down containers
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:02,250 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>> >> >> DeviceLoader.java:246:ERROR]
>> >> >> ---- exception report
>> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> JPOS Exception
>> >> >> Exception: jpos.JposException
>> >> >> Message: Control not opened
>> >> >> ---- stack trace
>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> jpos.JposException: Control not opened
>> >> >> jpos.BaseJposControl.release(Unknown Source)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.close(GenericDevice.java:72)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.stop(DeviceLoader.java:240)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.stop(JposDeviceContainer.java:65)
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.unload(ContainerLoader.java:99)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.shutdownServer(Start.java:300)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.access$000(Start.java:43)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start$1.run(Start.java:277)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:02,328 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook)
>> >> >> [JposDeviceContainer.java:68
>> >> >> :ERROR]
>> >> >> ---- exception report
>> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> Exception: org.ofbiz.base.util.GeneralException
>> >> >> Message: null
>> >> >> ---- stack trace
>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.util.GeneralException
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.stop(DeviceLoader.java:247)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.stop(JposDeviceContainer.java:65)
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.unload(ContainerLoader.java:99)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.shutdownServer(Start.java:300)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.access$000(Start.java:43)
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start$1.run(Start.java:277)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2008-06-18 00:41:02,390 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook)
>> >> >> [JposDeviceContainer.java:70
>> >> >> :INFO ] JPOS Devices released and closed
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm using all this on a PC having Windows XP and service pack 2. Am
>> I
>> >> in
>> >> >> moving in the right way? I read that you also got this exception
>> >> >> "jpos.JposException: The information is not described in XML", now
>> >> what
>> >> I
>> >> >> can do to move further ith the integration?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Branden Strickland wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1) typically the jdk stuff is installed to the /opt/Epson......
>> >> >> > There should be an uninstall folder in there, with a script to
>> get
>> >> it
>> >> >> off
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > your box.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2) On the clean install**
>> >> >> > Run the installation
>> >> >> > Install everything (which I think is included in the "typical"
>> >> >> package...
>> >> >> > You can select custom and check just to be safe.
>> >> >> > It will ask you if you have an existing jpos.xml.  Say yes, and
>> >> select
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > browsing to your /ofbizROOT/specialpurpose/pos/config/jpos.xml
>> >> >> > The installation will finish.
>> >> >> > if you have a manually copy and pasted entry in your jpos.xml for
>> >> the
>> >> >> > TM-T88IV, now is a good time to remove that entry.
>> >> >> > enter the /opt/EpsonADK/SetupPOS directory and run the ./SetupPOS
>> >> >> command
>> >> >> > When SetupPOS starts, you should notice that it only recognizes
>> one
>> >> >> device
>> >> >> > in the jpos.xml (thats because the rest are just generic and non
>> >> Epson)
>> >> >> > Add a device, select the POS printer you need (TM-T88IV) and save
>> >> the
>> >> >> > file.
>> >> >> > enter the Healthcheck directory.  Copy your javax.comm.properties
>> >> file
>> >> >> > over
>> >> >> > to the directory.
>> >> >> > *****A small important note here. I've been told time and time
>> again
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> > if
>> >> >> > I'm planning on using RXTX that you need to modify that file to
>> use
>> >> it.
>> >> >>  I
>> >> >> > tried it and RXTX kept blowing up on me.  I don't know if SUN
>> >> changed
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > way that their COMM.java works, but I left the file as is, using
>> the
>> >> >> > default
>> >> >> > driver and it worked.**** Take this for what you will though,
>> I've
>> >> >> heard
>> >> >> > mixed results.
>> >> >> > Run the script, load your printer (it should look for your
>> jpos.xml)
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> > hit
>> >> >> > test.  You should get a small slip (please make sure your printer
>> is
>> >> >> on!
>> >> >> > :P
>> >> >> > ) printed to tell you it worked.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If it doesn't.... Before posting any errors, I would step back
>> once
>> >> >> more
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > try to get the blackbox application that comes with RXTX (or was
>> it
>> >> the
>> >> >> > javacomm API???) to work. just search for BlackBox, you'll find
>> it.
>> >>  If
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > get it to work, that will prove that the serial interface is
>> working
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > will continually print garble to the printer if it's working.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Let me know if you can get this far... and we'll continue!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Ajey.bitin <
>> >> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sorry to say but really I forgot to select the jpos.xml file
>> from
>> >> my
>> >> >> >> ofbiz
>> >> >> >> application. I'm using EPSON TM-T88IV thermal printer in a
>> serial
>> >> >> >> interface.
>> >> >> >> Even now on my system, I'm not able to uninstall EPSON ADK 1.9.4
>> >> >> because
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> is not giving me any option for uninstall. I think you are right
>> >> >> because
>> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> printer is not working even with CheckHealth utility.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If selecting jpos.xml from pos while the process if installation
>> >> >> modifies
>> >> >> >> the appropriate jar file, then it should really work on a fresh
>> >> >> >> installation. I'll now try to configure the same application on
>> a
>> >> >> >> different
>> >> >> >> PC along with Printer and ADK 1.9.4, will you please put some
>> light
>> >> on
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> correct path I should follow while this fresh configuration, I
>> >> don't
>> >> >> >> wanna
>> >> >> >> fail this time.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm so happy that now a torchbearer is with me.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks Branden, thanx for all this.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ajey Kumar
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Branden Strickland wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > when you install JAVA ADK are you selecting the jpos.xml file
>> in
>> >> >> >> > /pos/config/jpos.xml to modify?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Before getting the printer to work in ofbiz, you need to get
>> the
>> >> >> >> > Checkhealth
>> >> >> >> > script working.  You must specify at install the JPOS.xml file
>> so
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> > software can use it to edit the configuration, as well as
>> modify
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > correct
>> >> >> >> > jar that contains the JCL information.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Are you using serial?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Ajey.bitin <
>> >> >> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Hi Branden,
>> >> >> >> >> I did all the things as suggested by you but still I'm facing
>> >> >> problem.
>> >> >> >> As
>> >> >> >> >> you have resolved this completely, I'm sure you can help me a
>> >> lot
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> >> >> putting
>> >> >> >> >> proper light on it.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I've installed Epson ADK 1.9.4 on my system. My printer EPSON
>> >> >> TM-T88IV
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> printing fine with its test pages, even I'm able to print
>> with
>> >> it
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> any
>> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> windows application like MS-Word but my POS is not
>> initializing
>> >> it
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> all.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> The JARs in /specialpurpose/pos/lib are as follows:
>> >> >> >> >> pos.jar, uposcommon.jar, epsonupos.jar, jpos19.jar,
>> >> xercesImpl.jar,
>> >> >> >> >> xml-apis.jar and looks-2.0.2.jar
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I've also kept the javax.comm.properties in the CheckHealth
>> >> >> directory
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> EPSON.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I'm using jdk1.5.0_09 and all respective jar files are
>> available
>> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> installation in my C:\Program
>> Files\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre\lib\ext
>> >> >> >> >> directory.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> jpos.xml (generated with the help of SetupPOS utility of
>> Epson:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> The errors and exceptions I'm getting are as as follows:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Epson CheckHealth Report
>> >> >> >> >> ErrorCode: 107
>> >> >> >> >> ErrorCodeExtended: 5008
>> >> >> >> >> Message:
>> >> >> >> >> The power supply of the device is off.
>> >> >> >> >> !! StackTrace !!
>> >> >> >> >> jpos.JposException: The power supply of the device is off.
>> >> >> >> >>                at
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.init.AbstractPrinterInitialization.getRealtimeStatus(Unknown
>> >> >> >> >> source)
>> >> >> >> >> ………………………………….
>> >> >> >> >> ………………………………….
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> POS Startup Exception:
>> >> >> >> >> 2008-06-16 01:22:18,859 (main) [ClassLoaderContainer.java:50
>> >> :INFO
>> >> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> CachedClassLoader created
>> >> >> >> >> 2008-06-16 01:22:21,890 (main) [    ContainerLoader.java:74
>> >> :INFO
>> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> [Startup] Starting containers...
>> >> >> >> >> 2008-06-16 01:22:22,140 (main) [
>> >> DeviceLoader.java:123:ERROR]
>> >> >> >> >> ---- exception report
>> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> JPOS Exception
>> >> >> >> >> Exception: jpos.JposException
>> >> >> >> >> Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
>> >> >> >> >> ---- stack trace
>> >> >> >> >>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL
>> >> registry
>> >> >> >> >>
>> jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown
>> >> >> >> Source)
>> >> >> >> >> jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
>> >> >> >> >> jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:46)
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:119)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(JposDeviceContainer.java:52)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:80)
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:263)
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:314)
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:318)
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:404)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> 2008-06-16 01:22:22,156 (main) [JposDeviceContainer.java:54
>> >> :INFO
>> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> ******************************************************
>> >> >> >> >> 2008-06-16 01:22:22,156 (main) [JposDeviceContainer.java:55
>> >> :INFO
>> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> Please
>> >> >> >> >> verify that your receipt printer is connected !
>> >> >> >> >> 2008-06-16 01:22:22,156 (main) [JposDeviceContainer.java:56
>> >> :INFO
>> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> ******************************************************
>> >> >> >> >> 2008-06-16 01:22:22,187 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>> >> >> >> >> ContainerLoader.java:93
>> >> >> >> >> :INFO ] Shutting down containers
>> >> >> >> >> 2008-06-16 01:22:22,203 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>> >> >> >> >> DeviceLoader.java:246:ERROR]
>> >> >> >> >> ---- exception report
>> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> JPOS Exception
>> >> >> >> >> Exception: jpos.JposException
>> >> >> >> >> Message: Control not opened
>> >> >> >> >> ---- stack trace
>> >> >> >> >>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I think, I've given all information that you will need to
>> look
>> >> >> into,
>> >> >> >> any
>> >> >> >> >> help in this concern will be highly appreciated.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Lots of thanks in advance,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Ajey Kumar
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Branden Strickland wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Yes, I was able to get the printer system working.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > First, I have to state that All Null devices are still
>> >> "broke".
>> >> >> >> After
>> >> >> >> >> > running the EpsonADK.bin (1.8 1.9 .1.11, doesn't matter) it
>> >> seems
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> > modify
>> >> >> >> >> > something that doesn't allow the POS to find the Null
>> devices.
>> >>  I
>> >> >> >> don't
>> >> >> >> >> > know
>> >> >> >> >> > why.  All the .java files and .jar and .class files are
>> >> located
>> >> >> >> where
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> > were, and are available, and the "path"
>> >> >> >> >> > (org.ofbiz.pos.....{something}.class)
>> >> >> >> >> > seems just fine.  However, I suppose since I have hardware
>> I
>> >> >> don't
>> >> >> >> >> really
>> >> >> >> >> > need them....so I digress! :P
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I followed the link that
>> >> >> >> >> > Jacques put in the POS section that links to the jira forum
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> explains
>> >> >> >> >> > the 1.9 installation.  I followed that to the T (except I
>> had
>> >> to
>> >> >> put
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> > javax.comm.properties in the root directory IE either in
>> >> >> Checkhealth
>> >> >> >> >> (when
>> >> >> >> >> > checking the device before adding it to ofbiz...or to the
>> >> ofbiz
>> >> >> >> root...
>> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> > believe adding this to the classpath will provide the same
>> >> >> result.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > To fix the cashdrawer.... (I suppose it was never broke, so
>> I
>> >> >> didn't
>> >> >> >> >> "fix
>> >> >> >> >> > it".  I just...DUH added it to the Epson configuration
>> through
>> >> >> >> >> SetupPOS.)
>> >> >> >> >> > making sure to point it to the jpos.xml in pos/config/.
>> (very
>> >> >> >> >> important).
>> >> >> >> >> > I added the only cashdrawer that the program would let me.
>> >> You
>> >> >> >> >> initialy
>> >> >> >> >> > tell it it's on the TTYS0 (if it's attached to the
>> >> >> printer...(this
>> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> >> > point to whatever input your printer is...because the
>> signal
>> >> must
>> >> >> >> pass
>> >> >> >> >> > through the printer.)  Then it asks to select the printer
>> it's
>> >> >> >> attached
>> >> >> >> >> > too... Provides you the logical name to use in
>> pos-containers.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > The rest is cake walk!
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Let me know if you have questions!
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > thanks!
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Ajey.bitin <
>> >> >> >> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Branden,
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Did you get success in the implementation of EPSON
>> TM-T88IV
>> >> POS
>> >> >> >> >> Printer
>> >> >> >> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> >> OFBiz? I couldn't see any of your updates since a long on
>> >> this,
>> >> >> >> please
>> >> >> >> >> >> let
>> >> >> >> >> >> me know if any good news is there.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Ajey Kumar
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Branden Strickland wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > This is quite a late reply.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I've been busy so I didn't respond, but I wanted to let
>> you
>> >> >> know
>> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >> > you're
>> >> >> >> >> >> > in the same boat.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I get the exact same error, and I've been trying to work
>> on
>> >> it
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > last
>> >> >> >> >> >> > month or so.....To no avail.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > If I figure something out, I'll post it here... If you
>> do,
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > same?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks!!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Ajey.bitin <
>> >> >> >> >> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm trying to implement EPSON TM-T88IV Thermal printer
>> in
>> >> >> POS.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> >> failed
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> configure that because every time the application is
>> >> shutting
>> >> >> >> down
>> >> >> >> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> exception given below. Even the application is not
>> >> starting
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> EPSON
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> TM-T88III printer which is a tested one. The error
>> stack
>> >> >> trace
>> >> >> >> >> given
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> below
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> occurred for EPSON TM-T88III printer.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've installed the Java Communication API, copied the
>> >> EPSOn
>> >> >> Jar
>> >> >> >> >> files
>> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lib directory of POS and modified the jpos.xml and
>> >> >> >> >> pos-containers.xml
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> files
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> respectively. But everytime I'm getting this error.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've purchased one EPSON TM-T88IV printer to test and
>> >> >> installed
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Epson_JavaPOS_ADK_194.exe on its behalf. Every time
>> >> services
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> found
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> error
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> is coming.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Can anybody suggest me how I should proceed and what
>> are
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> required
>> >> >> >> >> >> JAR
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> files (and from where I can get them) for the said
>> >> Printer.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> =======================================================================
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:54,687 (main) [
>> >> >> >> ComponentContainer.java:120:INFO
>> >> >> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> >> All
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> components loaded
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:54,718 (main)
>> >> [ClassLoaderContainer.java:50
>> >> >> >> :INFO
>> >> >> >> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> CachedClassLoader created
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:54,828 (main) [
>> >> ContainerLoader.java:74
>> >> >> >> :INFO
>> >> >> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Startup] Starting containers...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jpos/res/jpos.properties file not found
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jpos/res/jpos.properties file not found
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jpos/res/jpos.properties file not found
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:55,109 (main) [
>> >> DeviceLoader.java:62
>> >> >> >> :ERROR]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- exception report
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> JPOS Exception
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Exception: jpos.JposException
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- stack trace
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded
>> JCL
>> >> >> >> registry
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown
>> >> >> >> >> >> Source)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown
>> Source)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(JposDeviceContainer.java:50)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:80)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:263)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:314)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:318)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:404)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:55,109 (main)
>> >> [JposDeviceContainer.java:52
>> >> >> >> :INFO
>> >> >> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ****************************************************
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> **
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:55,109 (main)
>> >> [JposDeviceContainer.java:53
>> >> >> >> :INFO
>> >> >> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> verify that your receipt printer is connected
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>  !
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:55,140 (main)
>> >> [JposDeviceContainer.java:54
>> >> >> >> :INFO
>> >> >> >> ]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ****************************************************
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> **
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.StartupException: Cannot start()
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer (null)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:82)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:263)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:314)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:318)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:404)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerException
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(JposDeviceContainer.java:55)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:80)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:263)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:314)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:318)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:404)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.util.GeneralException
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:63)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(JposDeviceContainer.java:50)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:80)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:263)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:314)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:318)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>        at
>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:404)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:55,296 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ContainerLoader.java:93
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> :INFO ] Shutting down containers
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:55,296 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> DeviceLoader.java:241:ERROR]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- exception report
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> JPOS Exception
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Exception: jpos.JposException
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: Control not opened
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- stack trace
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jpos.JposException: Control not opened
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jpos.BaseJposControl.release(Unknown Source)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.close(GenericDevice.java:55)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.stop(DeviceLoader.java:208)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.stop(JposDeviceContainer.java:63)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.unload(ContainerLoader.java:99)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.shutdownServer(Start.java:300)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.access$000(Start.java:43)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start$1.run(Start.java:277)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:55,296 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> [JposDeviceContainer.java:66
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> :ERROR]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- exception report
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Exception: org.ofbiz.base.util.GeneralException
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: null
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- stack trace
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.util.GeneralException
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.stop(DeviceLoader.java:242)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.stop(JposDeviceContainer.java:63)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.unload(ContainerLoader.java:99)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.shutdownServer(Start.java:300)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.access$000(Start.java:43)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start$1.run(Start.java:277)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008-04-03 05:55:55,296 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> [JposDeviceContainer.java:68
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> :INFO ] JPOS Devices released and closed
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> ============================================================================
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ajey.bitin
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
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