On Mar 11, 2009, at 2:17 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

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I believe #3 is misleading.

Not really: I'm happy to offer feedback, but I really need something
that will work well now and well into the future so we can get things
going in our organization

This says to me that ofbiz is ready to be used as is.
yet in both the branch version as well as the trunk there are portions
that either have not be updated, or was only a skeleton.
I refer to the payment services, in this case.

All of this release stuff is about stability, not functionality. Realistically releases have little to do with functionality, and in fact the whole point of a release branch is to prioritize stability over functionality.

The goal is to not have the expectation that it is like a program you
buy off the self.

That's not necessarily true. The primary focus is on creating software that is easy to customize, but that doesn't mean we can't have apps that are meant to be used OOTB. In fact, the point of the specialpurpose components is to provide those sorts of apps.

Different people contribute different things according to what they want. Most _contributors_ want OFBiz to be a basis for a custom solution, but some want apps to use OOTB. The more contributions in the 2nd category the more OFBiz will move in that direction.

It's all up to "us".

so i propose something that indicates that portion may not function
properly and will need the help of a consultant, if they don't have the
resources.

Or when they find a problem to submit a jira, though that has been
frowned on from what I have picked up in discussion about Jiras.

That is certainly NOT true.

OR I realize this is a community effort application and May need extra
work to have it work the way I want.

That is the case for all enterprise software. No package does everything a business needs unless it is customized. Larger companies usually spend for the customization (or try to, and all too often fail due to bad requirements gathering, designing, and to some extend planning and management). Smaller companies do things manually or use generic software like a spreadsheet to manage things semi-manually.

It's not something special about OFBiz, it's the nature of business and the current state of software that helps businesses automate.

-David


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