Hi Chris

At the moment I use 9.04 but am helping to put together the online help
documentation for the latest trunk so have been trying to keep up with the
changes happening there especially on the accounting side.

I think the trunk is looking a lot better accounting-wise but I just want to
give it a thorough test to be able to understand the processes before I
think about moving versions.

Jacques – On the business process story side  I've mentioned to David that
it's something I'd like to  contribute to but will finish the accounting
documentation first so I get a fuller picture of whats what.

Thanks
Sharan


jacques.le.roux wrote:
> 
> This may turn helpful (since Sharan gave much guidance details) as a new
> business story in the library...
> 
> Jacques
> 
> From: "Chris Snow" <[email protected]>
>> Hi Sharan,
>>
>> Which version of ofbiz do you normally prefer to go for?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sharan-F wrote:
>>> Hi Chris
>>>
>>> No worries – I'm no OFBiz expert either and OFBiz was new to everyone at
>>> some point or other.
>>>
>>> The scenario you describe sounds like Indirect Purchasing so could be
>>> something like office supplies etc, rather than something that is
>>> directly
>>> part of a product or a product manufacturing process that will be on
>>> sold to
>>> customers.
>>>
>>> You're also talking about pre-payment here because you pay (via credit
>>> card)
>>> before the product itself gets delivered. A lot of purchasing processes
>>> have
>>> the product delivered first then they send the invoice and even then you
>>> get
>>> several days (or weeks or months!) in which to pay.
>>>
>>> It will probably depend on the number of these purchasing credit card
>>> transactions that will determine how you handle it. It there are a lot
>>> of
>>> them then you'd probably want to streamline it.
>>> What I've seen done before is an import of an electronic credit card
>>> statement where the payment is generated from the statement itself and
>>> then
>>> matched to the purchase invoice via reference numbers etc.
>>>
>>> Without knowing too much about your scope and thinking off the top of my
>>> head you could put something together that could create the payment
>>> automatically but you still might need some way to track the company
>>> credit
>>> card transactions like you would a bank account.  You'd probably want to
>>> track the credit limit for the card since you dont want the employee to
>>> spend $1001 when the credit card limit it $1000.You may also want  to
>>> setup
>>> a GL account to mirror the credit card transactions in the General
>>> Ledger
>>> for reconciliation and accounting purposes.
>>>
>>> Not sure if this helps much but hopefully someone else may respond with
>>> other ideas too.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Snow-3 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>> Many thanks for the detailed reply.
>>>> The type of scenario I was thinking about was where a company employee
>>>> purchases a consumable product using company credit card. 
>>>> The company is a small business and does not need a purchase order
>>>> approval process.  I was thinking that because the payment 
>>>> has already been made by credit card, having the payment as a separate
>>>> step in ofbiz makes the process quite cumbersome.
>>>>
>>>> I apologize if my questions (and usage of ofbiz) seem stupid!
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sharan-F wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure that you can automate a payment in this way in OFBiz and
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> not sure from a business perspective that you would want to take out
>>>>> the
>>>>> manual creation of payments to suppliers (since effectively you're
>>>>> taking
>>>>> out key verification / approval step).
>>>>>
>>>>> OFBiz can generate the purchase invoice for you if you use Order Entry
>>>>> to
>>>>> enter a Purchase Order to a supplier, then when  you  receive the
>>>>> purchase
>>>>> order products  Ofbiz will generate a 'pro forma' invoice (which in
>>>>> layman's
>>>>> terms is 'draft Purchase Invoice' based on the Purchase Order.) so it
>>>>> will
>>>>> contain the same costs and taxes as the original purchase order.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the real Purchase Invoice arrives you can enter any adjustments
>>>>> (eg
>>>>> perhaps they gave you a discount or there was a price increase that
>>>>> you
>>>>> werent aware of) and update the pro forma invoice so that it is
>>>>> correct,
>>>>> then you can approve it and pay it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose similar to the 'pro forma invoice' concept you could create
>>>>> a
>>>>> 'pro
>>>>> forma payment' but you'd still need some form of manual approval to
>>>>> ensure
>>>>> that the company bank account will be able bear the cost of the
>>>>> payment.
>>>>> I've been on projects where we have implemented automatic Purchase
>>>>> Order/Goods Received Note(GRN) and payment voucher generation for
>>>>> purchase
>>>>> orders so I know there are businesses out there that do use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sharan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Snow-3 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I receive enter a purchase invoice into ofbiz when I receive a
>>>>>> vendors
>>>>>> invoice, I have to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - raise the purchase invoice
>>>>>> - raise an outgoing payment and apply to the purchase invoice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to combine the steps, i.e. raising the invoice and
>>>>>> automatically generate the payment for the invoice and apply it to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> invoice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks in advance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> 
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