Pondering on opportunities and request I think  that any type of request is
an opportunity. Otherwise they were orders, no? So these two entities should
be combined.


2009/10/21 Pierre Smits <[email protected]>

> Hi Jacques,
> You are on the money there. I think that the ecommerce solution in OfBIZ
> can be regarded as Best in Class. And with a little effort the CRM/SFA
> module can be the same. Most of the functionalities, as you pointed out, are
> already in place. It is just bringing it together. Having that it will drive
> the acceptance of a good CRM/SFA solution for customers and can/will lead to
> having a better acceptance of OfBIZ as a whole (both from customer and
> developer (SI) point of view).
>
> Therefore I would also advice to split up the Marketing module in a MARCOM
> application (which is more about marketing and communication - with their
> own business processes) and a CRM application (which is by most perceived as
> SFA).
>
> In my opinion the CRM/SFA should be the starting point for getting all the
> info of an account/prospect/customer regarding:
> Opportunities,
> Request
> Orders
> Contacts
> etc.
>
> When the page of an account is shown the focus should also be on how to
> contact the account (contact mechs) and the associated contacts (showing
> phone and email contact mechs).
>
> The SFA officials should be able to create, read, update and delete from
> there.
>
> But also security solutions should be up to specs.
>
> I also think that the starterpage of SFA should have some charts showing
> the pipeline of all account opportunities (maybe that is some
> BI-functionality). This functionality could then also be shown on the
> profile of the account., including showing total value of sales of YtD, and
> last year.
>
> It's the simple things that make it (life also) better to bear.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
>
> PS Could you (and others) also comment on my email regarding Market Segment
> & Sales Segment?
>
> 2009/10/20 Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>
>
> Hi Pierre,
>>
>> Yes it sounds like a reasonnable requirement to me. Some of the problems
>> we get when trying to convince prospects to use OFBiz is
>> that they want something like SugarCRM. Almost all is there, but not as
>> easy as in SugarCRM...
>> I guess that's why Opentaps was created in the 1st place, because Si
>> quickly identified the need and filled it. BTW, I think we miss
>> after sales features in OFBiz (like tokens in SugarCRM). This could
>> certainly be implemented using what exists already in OFBiz (ie
>> we don't need much changes in the data model if any, using workeffort for
>> instance) but has still to be done at the UI level.
>>
>> A prospective customer (French international enterprise of middle size)
>> told me recently that he would prefer to have an easier to use
>> SFA/CRM than an accounting module, because he has already his own
>> accouting system and do not want to change.
>> Also he wondered how much changes would be implied if ever he would like
>> to change, because he think the accouting module is
>> formated to US practices. I don't think so (I think it's general enough
>> and may be quickly adapted) but as I have not worked much
>> with the OFBiz accouting system yet, I had not much arguments to expose,
>> and was not even quite sure of them. So I ask accouting specialists : what
>> is your point of view on this aspect ?
>>
>> My 2cts
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]>
>>
>>  Hi All,
>>> Shouldn't requests, quotes and the like be visible from the SFA Manager?
>>> And
>>> should users be also able to create new requests, quotes e.a. from there?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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