Hi Jacques,

My apologies, but what are you relating your question to? It's a bit vague
for me at the moment.

Regards,

Pierre


2009/10/23 Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>

> Hi Pierre,
>
> What is the name of "your" Request entity ?
>
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]>
>
>> Pondering on opportunities and request I think  that any type of request
>> is
>> an opportunity. Otherwise they were orders, no? So these two entities
>> should
>> be combined.
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/21 Pierre Smits <[email protected]>
>>
>> Hi Jacques,
>>> You are on the money there. I think that the ecommerce solution in OfBIZ
>>> can be regarded as Best in Class. And with a little effort the CRM/SFA
>>> module can be the same. Most of the functionalities, as you pointed out,
>>> are
>>> already in place. It is just bringing it together. Having that it will
>>> drive
>>> the acceptance of a good CRM/SFA solution for customers and can/will lead
>>> to
>>> having a better acceptance of OfBIZ as a whole (both from customer and
>>> developer (SI) point of view).
>>>
>>> Therefore I would also advice to split up the Marketing module in a
>>> MARCOM
>>> application (which is more about marketing and communication - with their
>>> own business processes) and a CRM application (which is by most perceived
>>> as
>>> SFA).
>>>
>>> In my opinion the CRM/SFA should be the starting point for getting all
>>> the
>>> info of an account/prospect/customer regarding:
>>> Opportunities,
>>> Request
>>> Orders
>>> Contacts
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> When the page of an account is shown the focus should also be on how to
>>> contact the account (contact mechs) and the associated contacts (showing
>>> phone and email contact mechs).
>>>
>>> The SFA officials should be able to create, read, update and delete from
>>> there.
>>>
>>> But also security solutions should be up to specs.
>>>
>>> I also think that the starterpage of SFA should have some charts showing
>>> the pipeline of all account opportunities (maybe that is some
>>> BI-functionality). This functionality could then also be shown on the
>>> profile of the account., including showing total value of sales of YtD,
>>> and
>>> last year.
>>>
>>> It's the simple things that make it (life also) better to bear.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>>
>>> PS Could you (and others) also comment on my email regarding Market
>>> Segment
>>> & Sales Segment?
>>>
>>> 2009/10/20 Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes it sounds like a reasonnable requirement to me. Some of the problems
>>>> we get when trying to convince prospects to use OFBiz is
>>>> that they want something like SugarCRM. Almost all is there, but not as
>>>> easy as in SugarCRM...
>>>> I guess that's why Opentaps was created in the 1st place, because Si
>>>> quickly identified the need and filled it. BTW, I think we miss
>>>> after sales features in OFBiz (like tokens in SugarCRM). This could
>>>> certainly be implemented using what exists already in OFBiz (ie
>>>> we don't need much changes in the data model if any, using workeffort
>>>> for
>>>> instance) but has still to be done at the UI level.
>>>>
>>>> A prospective customer (French international enterprise of middle size)
>>>> told me recently that he would prefer to have an easier to use
>>>> SFA/CRM than an accounting module, because he has already his own
>>>> accouting system and do not want to change.
>>>> Also he wondered how much changes would be implied if ever he would like
>>>> to change, because he think the accouting module is
>>>> formated to US practices. I don't think so (I think it's general enough
>>>> and may be quickly adapted) but as I have not worked much
>>>> with the OFBiz accouting system yet, I had not much arguments to expose,
>>>> and was not even quite sure of them. So I ask accouting specialists :
>>>> what
>>>> is your point of view on this aspect ?
>>>>
>>>> My 2cts
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>> Shouldn't requests, quotes and the like be visible from the SFA
>>>>> Manager?
>>>>> And
>>>>> should users be also able to create new requests, quotes e.a. from
>>>>> there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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