I feel it is worth looking at the other way too.

If ofbiz were to move towards reusing projects like hibernate and spring and 
generalize some of the cool concepts into reusable libraries packaged through 
something like Apache Commons or ofbiz subprojects it would drive adoption. By 
resuable i mean things like XML form based langugage, renderers. minilang. 
These nice ideas do not need to be ofbiz only. 

I realize this is difficult and not immediate focus of ofiz.. I am also sure 
this may not always be best design or priority fit. 
.. but it does cause practical problems - developers pay by not learning other 
things that are potentially more mature in design and popularity, this in turn 
can lead to lower financial returns as outlined by Christopher. For employers, 
if a developer votes with their feet a lot of training investment is lost. 
Books really help. Cost of understanding and maintaining ofbiz based projects 
and having developers feel it is the right thing to learn is very important i 
feel.

Harmeet

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From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>

The more new adopters we get, the more likely 
OFBiz will be brought into the enterprise and become mainstream. And 
then the secret will be out and everyone will be salivating all over it 
- just like the do with Spring and Hibernate.

Christopher Snow wrote:
> I spend a lot of time learning.  I am learning new systems all the
> time and to date I have implemented a multitude of opensource
> solutions .  I enjoy learning, I enjoy new technologies.
...
> When looking at returns, as a contractor, I usually notice what skills 
> the UK job boards are asking for.  I have seen a few jobs recently 
> asking for adempiere and compiere skills.  I have not seen many jobs 
> requiring ofbiz skills, but I do have a number of small companies that 
> want bespoke enterprise application development that suits the ofbiz 
> framework.

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