Hi Ruth,

On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi All:
> As I sit back here and read the many an various opinions about the current 
> state and future of OFBiz, I have to say I really appreciate everyone taking 
> the time to voice an opinion. Maybe David will take this to heart and factor 
> all this into his OFBiz lite project.
> 
> Concerning competing interests, I didn't intend that comment in a "mean" way. 
> I think it is good that there is so much interest in OFBiz. Naturally with a 
> project as multi-faceted as this, there will be various special interests 
> that evolve. I think that is a good thing. Perhaps a better way to say this 
> is that I would like to see, and I think several others on the list have 
> expressed a special interest in, taking the OFBiz framework (and what exactly 
> is included in the framework should be discussed) and making it a separate 
> "something" - so that it can get all the care and attention it deserves.
> 

This has been already discussed in the past and the general consensus was that:
1) the framework should be able to stand without applications, i.e. the 
framework should NOT depend on the applications; a lot of work went into this 
direction and now you can build a framework only version of OFBiz; however the 
work is still not complete, and we need help on this, especially in these areas:
* user (not party) management and permission management screen should be moved 
out of the partymanager application into the Webtools (or a separate framework 
level application): in this way, even with a framework only distribution, you 
will have a UI to manage your users
* product images etc... should be loaded outside of it (in the runtime 
folder?); no write operation should happen at runtime in the framework folder, 
ideally 
2) the code in the framework is more stable and we could manage for it a 
separate (from the application) release plan, within the OFBiz community

Jacopo

> I don't know what that "something" is. Someone with more experience working 
> in this type of development environment could help with that definition. A 
> goal similar to the Eclipse plug and play model sounds really attractive to 
> me. How to get there? I don't know.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth

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