BJ, Hans, Bruno,

Thank you for your ideas and clarifications. I wonder, however, why the 
general application framework of OfBiz could be better than other Java EE 
open-source frameworks, such as Spring or JBoss ?  I guess the real 
strength of OfBiz are its ERP applications, but I doubt if the whole gamut 
of ERP applications could be used in AAL. Could application framework of 
OfBiz compete with open source frameworks such as Spring or JBoss ? 

Best Regards,
Vadim
-------------------------------
Vadim Eisenberg
IT for Healthcare & Life Sciences
IBM Research - Haifa
 

Bruno Busco <[email protected]> wrote on 05/09/2010 04:30:01 PM:

> From:
> 
> Bruno Busco <[email protected]>
> 
> To:
> 
> [email protected]
> 
> Date:
> 
> 05/09/2010 04:31 PM
> 
> Subject:
> 
> Re: Ofbiz and AAL was OfBiz e-commerce customization
> 
> Yes, the idea is to distribute the framework with some basic 
applications
> that allows to manage parties and contents.
> On top of that, specific applications (even not ERP) can be build by the
> user.
> The custom application can leverage all the features the framework 
offers.
> 
> Right now the specialpurpose directory with all contained applications 
can
> easily be removed from an installation so that all related db tables are 
not
> created.
> On the contrary, it is not possible to eliminate all the applications
> contained in the "Applications" directory because the framework depends 
on
> them.
> We are working to eliminate those dependencies so that only used
> applications could be installed or even none of them.
> 
> -Bruno
> 
> 2010/9/5 Vadim Eisenberg <[email protected]>
> 
> > Hi Bruno,
> >
> > Do you mean that the framework could be (in the future) used as a 
general
> > SOA architecture for running applications, not necessary ERP related ?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Vadim
> > -------------------------------
> > Vadim Eisenberg
> > IT for Healthcare & Life Sciences
> > IBM Research - Haifa
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > Bruno Busco <[email protected]>
> > To:
> > [email protected]
> > Date:
> > 05/09/2010 03:06 PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: Ofbiz and AAL was OfBiz e-commerce customization
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, Vadim, consider also that there is an in-progress work aimed to
> > better
> > separate the framework from the higher level applications.
> > This will let users like you use the power of the framework with just 
the
> > part they need of the higher applications.
> > -Bruno
> >
> > 2010/9/5 BJ Freeman <[email protected]>
> >
> > > I want to expand the conversation about using Ofbiz not just 
Ecommerce.
> > > First let start by thinking that everything is a system, living is a
> > > system.
> > > Everything we do is a bunch of black boxes with input and outputs, 
with
> > the
> > > processes to deal with the input and create the output.
> > > To address ERP, we all in our lives, implement resource planning, 
some
> > > better than others.
> > > An example is meal planning. Though most do this second nature from 
a
> > lot
> > > of experience, it can also be model in software.
> > > So how does resource-planning work in the home? From the Power used 
to
> > do
> > > things like cooking, heating, to house repair is all resource 
planning.
> > > The “E” part simply defines the max scope of the software to handle 
such
> > > activities.
> > >
> > > Most of your specs  for a “requirements Engine” is resources 
planning.
> > > The end Goal is do we have the necessary resources to do something.
> > > One of those resources is Cash. For seniors this is paramount if 
they
> > are
> > > on a fixed income. Resource planning and creating a budget is 
something
> > > Ofbiz can do with some added customization or expanding the current
> > system.
> > >
> > > Have you thought to use Ofbiz to develop the requirements of you AAL
> > > project?
> > > Use the Project manager will give you feel for what I mean.
> > >
> > > So lets talk about Ofbiz.
> > > You have a framework that already does a lot, you specify a entity 
and
> > its
> > > relationship then with just a few commands you have that available 
for
> > the
> > > Screenlet.
> > > Layered on top of the framework is the Application that are generic 
to
> > most
> > > of living but is primarily focused on business.
> > >
> > > Then you have the specific layer like Ecommerce and manufacturing.
> > > Now don’t discount manufacturing since that is what you do in the
> > kitchen
> > > as recipes.
> > >
> > > I am serious when I say David is Architect a comprehensive system 
that
> > can
> > > used in every aspect of our lives.
> > >
> > > So I would suggest:
> > > 1)Download Ofbiz and run it in Localhost  mode as a desktop to use 
the
> > > project manager and get feel for what it does.
> > > 2)Put it on a server so others in you group can do projects and 
tasks.
> > >
> > >
> > > =========================
> > > BJ Freeman  <http://bjfreeman.elance.com>
> > > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <
> > > http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> > > Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> > > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> > >
> > > Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vadim Eisenberg sent the following on 9/5/2010 12:01 AM:
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hi BJ,
> > >>
> > >> It is an interesting idea ! You actually propose to use OfBiz as 
the
> > core
> > >> platform for the AAL, and not only as an e-commerce solution. We 
will
> > >> consider it as an option. However, I would say that it seems that 
it
> > could
> > >> be an overkill to use an ERP solution as a general platform for
> > >> applications and devices. This option could be too heavy, in terms 
of
> > >> unneeded code/unneeded business features/high learning curve etc.. 
The
> > >> idea is definitely interesting, though.
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards,
> > >> Vadim
> > >> -------------------------------
> > >> Vadim Eisenberg
> > >> IT for Healthcare&  Life Sciences
> > >> IBM Research - Haifa
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> BJ Freeman<[email protected]>  wrote on 04/09/2010 04:37:21 PM:
> > >>
> > >>  From:
> > >>>
> > >>> BJ Freeman<[email protected]>
> > >>>
> > >>> To:
> > >>>
> > >>> [email protected]
> > >>>
> > >>> Date:
> > >>>
> > >>> 04/09/2010 04:38 PM
> > >>>
> > >>> Subject:
> > >>>
> > >>> Re: OfBiz e-commerce customization
> > >>>
> > >>> one of the concepts that is hard for most web developers is ofbiz
> > >>> Ecommerce is like a third Tier Application.
> > >>> Ecommerce depends on all the other Back-end applications and the
> > >>>
> > >> framework.
> > >>
> > >>> So you don't design a page then add the data in the db to support 
it.
> > >>> Also you will find the Ecommerce in the Second Volume starting 
about
> > >>> page 393.
> > >>> You can also look at the data model for Health care in Vol II.
> > >>> There is a section about Health Care Delivery. mind you this is 
only
> > >>> data modeling and the actual business logic and UI has to be
> > developed.
> > >>>
> > >>> My back ground is hardware automation as well as embedded
> > applications.
> > >>> in the 70's I designed a home that was automated, it used 
compressed
> > air
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>  and cylinders for activation of doors and ramps. At that time
> > proximity
> > >>> sensors were all that was available.
> > >>>
> > >>> I say this because of your focus.
> > >>> Being nearly 70 I have worked towards a computer companion, as 
such,
> > >>> using AI. its purpose was to be my guide when I got too forgetful.
> > >>>
> > >>> so here is something you may not have considered. Ofbiz as the 
Home
> > >>> automation with in the home.
> > >>> Ofbiz has a sync capability used in the POS that could be used to 
sync
> > >>> the ofbiz running in the home with the main website.
> > >>> This way each person would have their own personalize themes for 
their
> > >>>
> > >> home.
> > >>
> > >>> this would be an embedded Linux server with touch screen. it is 
all
> > >>> enclosed.
> > >>> you would use the network that automatically connects to other 
network
> > >>> nodes and builds an Intranet in the home. this allows for other
> > systems
> > >>> to interact with ofbiz.
> > >>>
> > >>> The Framework of ofbiz has the ability to run schedule services. 
the
> > >>> scripts for the services can be modified without re-compiling or
> > >>> restarting ofbiz, though the actual service defs do require a 
restart
> > if
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>  changed or added. this is being worked on so the home system can 
be
> > >>> updated on the fly.
> > >>>
> > >>> There is also a Setup component that can be added to for new
> > components.
> > >>>
> > >>> needless to say I very sold on ofbiz and what it can do.
> > >>> it does though, as David said have places that need to fleshed 
out.
> > >>>
> > >>> =========================
> > >>>
> > >>> BJ Freeman
> > >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<http://
> > >>> www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> > >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> > >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> > >>>
> > >>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> > >>>
> > >>> Vadim Eisenberg sent the following on 9/4/2010 1:02 AM:
> > >>>
> > >>>  Hi David,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thank you for your answer and explanations. I failed with the
> > >>>>
> > >>> formatting
> > >>
> > >>> for the second time, so I will try to write in plain text from now 
on.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You wrote: "when asking questions here please keep in mind that
> > >>>>
> > >>> responses
> > >>
> > >>> you get are volunteer responses and the only qualification you can 
be
> > >>>>
> > >>> sure
> > >>
> > >>> of for those responding
> > >>>> is that they are capable of subscribing to the mailing list. If 
many
> > >>>> people respond with something
> > >>>> consistent then it is a safer bet that you can rely on the
> > >>>>
> > >>> information,
> > >>
> > >>> but usually not otherwise."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I guess this is how Open Source works :) ? by volunteers 
contributing
> > >>>>
> > >>> code
> > >>
> > >>> to the product and answering questions in the mailing lists. I 
still
> > >>>>
> > >>> would
> > >>
> > >>> like to hear as much opinions as possible from the developers "in 
the
> > >>>> trenches", so anybody is welcome to provide them. I would like to
> > >>>>
> > >>> thank BJ
> > >>
> > >>> again for providing his opinions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please note that the project I participate in, is a kind of 
Research
> > >>>>
> > >>> and
> > >>
> > >>> Development project, sponsored by EU and implemented by a 
consortium
> > >>>>
> > >>> of
> > >>
> > >>> academic and industrial partners. The project is planned for four
> > >>>>
> > >>> years
> > >>
> > >>> (ending in January 2014). One of its goals is to create an open 
source
> > >>>> implementation of an e-commerce solution - uStore, suited for the
> > >>>>
> > >>> field of
> > >>
> > >>> AAL - Ambient Assisted Living (that is a kind of "smart home" for
> > >>>>
> > >>> senior
> > >>
> > >>> citizens). The main concept of uStore is similar to the concept of
> > >>>> AppStore of Apple ? the AAL application developers would be able 
to
> > >>>>
> > >>> upload
> > >>
> > >>> and sell their applications from the store. In addition to that, 
AAL
> > >>>> related devices and human services would be sold. An additional
> > >>>>
> > >>> important
> > >>
> > >>> feature is to integrate "social commerce" ? user reviews, blogs,
> > >>>>
> > >>> forums
> > >>
> > >>> etc.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please note that developing uStore is Research and Development 
and
> > >>>>
> > >>> there
> > >>
> > >>> are not yet concrete AAL businesses that would immediately use it. 
The
> > >>>> goal is to provide some reference open source implementation in 
four
> > >>>> years. This implementation would be later supported and extended 
by
> > an
> > >>>> open-source community according to the business needs of AAL
> > >>>>
> > >>> businesses,
> > >>
> > >>> once some real AAL businesses would use it. One of the goals is to
> > >>>>
> > >>> reuse
> > >>
> > >>> the existing open-source OOTB solutions in any field as much as
> > >>>>
> > >>> possible
> > >>
> > >>> in order to save resources as much as possible.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As a result of the situation, the accent here is more on 
e-commerce
> > >>>> features of existing e-commerce solutions, especially related to 
the
> > >>>> e-commerce frontend, than on their ERP features. We would like to 
use
> > >>>>
> > >>> the
> > >>
> > >>> simplest and the most straightforward standard business model
> > >>>>
> > >>> (preferably
> > >>
> > >>> OOTB) for e-commerce and invest more resources into the frontend
> > >>>>
> > >>> features.
> > >>
> > >>> By the frontend features I mean the website, its accessibility,
> > >>>>
> > >>> including
> > >>
> > >>> presentation on smart phones, search, recommendations, user 
reviews,
> > >>>>
> > >>> blogs
> > >>
> > >>> and forums etc. As I understand the strength of OfBiz is actually 
its
> > >>>>
> > >>> rich
> > >>
> > >>> ERP data model, however here we probably do not need the advanced 
ERP
> > >>>> features of OfBiz.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have read your HEMP Light document ? it was interesting and
> > provided
> > >>>> some insights for me. Currently we are in process of finalizing 
the
> > >>>>
> > >>> use
> > >>
> > >>> cases/requirements of the uStore and evaluating existing 
e-commerce
> > >>>> solutions, with OfBiz being one of the main candidates.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks&   Regards,
> > >>>> Vadim
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -------------------------------
> > >>>> Vadim Eisenberg
> > >>>> IT for Healthcare&   Life Sciences
> > >>>> IBM Research - Haifa
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> David E Jones<[email protected]>   wrote on 03/09/2010 10:00:38 PM:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  From:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> David E Jones<[email protected]>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> To:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [email protected]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Date:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 03/09/2010 10:01 PM
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Subject:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Re: OfBiz e-commerce customization
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Vadim,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> About your formatting: this mailing list filters out all HTML
> > >>>>> because HTML email messages tend to be VERY large and the Apache
> > >>>>> Software Foundation in general has many thousands of messages 
going
> > >>>>> through mailing lists every day.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Back to your original question: when asking questions here 
please
> > >>>>> keep in mind that responses you get are volunteer responses and 
the
> > >>>>> only qualification you can be sure of for those responding is 
that
> > >>>>> they are capable of subscribing to the mailing list. If many 
people
> > >>>>> respond with something consistent then it is a safer bet that 
you
> > >>>>> can rely on the information, but usually not otherwise. With a
> > >>>>> question as long and involved as yours chances are you'll only 
get a
> > >>>>> small number of responses, and chances are your experience will 
be
> > >>>>> VERY different from those few who do respond.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> OFBiz is a large project. A good developer can learn to work
> > >>>>> effectively with the framework with a couple of weeks of 
training
> > >>>>> and a couple of months of hands-on development. However, even a 
good
> > >>>>> developer will have a hard time picking up all of the data
> > >>>>> structures and business logic even after many months of study, 
and
> > >>>>> realistically since most people don't or can't do that, it 
usually
> > >>>>> takes years of work experience and even then they'll only have
> > >>>>> knowledge of the parts of the system that have had the 
opportunity
> > >>>>> to work with.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Understanding the business side is much easier for someone who 
has a
> > >>>>> good business background, and by good business background I mean
> > >>>>> really good experience with how businesses actually operate and 
what
> > >>>>> sorts of information businesses actually keep track of when
> > >>>>> operating. Sometimes people coming out of university business
> > >>>>> programs will have this, but most of the time they do not. Most
> > >>>>> people with business degrees will have learned more about laws 
and
> > >>>>> how to manipulate people than about the myriad of complexities 
of
> > >>>>> managing a warehouse, handling purchasing, or tracking 
information
> > >>>>> about products to facility the many touch points with those 
products
> > >>>>> throughout the company, and making it easy for customers to find
> > >>>>> products they want, or how to figure out where customer interest
> > >>>>> intersects with stuff you want to move.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So anyway, keep in mind that your diving into a pretty 
comprehensive
> > >>>>> ERP system, but one that is made up of what people have seen fit 
to
> > >>>>> contribute for free. An extremely wide variety of data 
structures
> > >>>>> and common business processes are represented in the system, 
though
> > >>>>> many are not complete, or at least not complete in the way your
> > >>>>> client will want to use them.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The only way to really be sure is to document ALL business
> > >>>>> activities (usually easiest if organized by process and not by 
role
> > >>>>> or by system function), and then do an overlap/gap analysis to 
see
> > >>>>> how each business activity would be done in the system, or if 
there
> > >>>>> is not something to do it (or it is not adequate for what your 
users
> > >>>>> want) then detail what the system needs to do to help manage 
that
> > >>>>> activity. Once you've done that, then you'll know what the 
system
> > >>>>> can do for you as-is, and what needs to be done to expand and 
change
> > >>>>> the system to do what your client needs. Short of that, 
everything
> > >>>>> is a guess and guaranteed to be wrong (the only question is by 
how
> > >>>>> much and in which direction(s)...).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> To help with that I recommend this material (this is what I use
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> withclients):
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://www.dejc.com/home/HEMP.html
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'd also recommend looking at some of the generic business 
process
> > >>>>> stories that have come from OFBiz-based projects and been 
refined
> > >>>>> somewhat over the years (though keep in mind that these stories 
in
> > >>>>> some places represent activities that are not managed by OOTB 
OFBiz,
> > >>>>> ie these need an overlap/gap analysis document to make them more
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> meaningful):
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal
> > >>>>> +Business+Process+Library+Index
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best of luck,
> > >>>>> -David
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sep 3, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Vadim Eisenberg wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Hello BJ and other OfBiz developers,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I was not subscribed to the mailing list so I did not receive 
the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> answer
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> of BJ to my previous message -
> > >>>>>> 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-user/201009.mbox/%
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> [email protected]%3e
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> . Because of that I cannot post a response to it. Secondly, I 
used
> > a
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> wrong
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> MIME in my previous message, so all the bullets and formatting 
were
> > >>>>>> missing. I am reposting the original message below in the right
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> format
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>>  (any additional comments/opinions are welcome). In addition, my
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> response
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> to BJ follows. Sorry for the mess I created.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi BJ,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thank you for your prompt response. I think I've got the 
general
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> idea.
> > >>
> > >>> I
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> still would like to ask a question about learning OfBiz:
> > >>>>>> The three volumes of the data model book comprise about 1700 
pages
> > >>>>>> together. Should I use the book as a reference or do I have to 
read
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> all
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> the three volumes before starting my work on OfBiz ? Which parts 
of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> book are required before I begin my work ?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks&   Regards,
> > >>>>>> Vadim
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> My original message:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> > 
> 
===========================================================================================================
> > >>
> > >>> Hello OfBiz developers,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> My name is Vadim Eisenberg and I work at IBM Research - Haifa, 
on
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> the
> > >>
> > >>> UniversAAL project - http://universaal.org/. It is a consortium
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> European
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> project. Its goal is to create a platform for applications, 
services
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> devices for Ambient Assisted Living, that is a kind of "Smart 
Home"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> senior citizens. As part of the platform, we - several software
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> developers
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> - have to develop an e-commerce site - uStore
> > >>>>>> http://universaal.org/index.php?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=9&Itemid=21
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> . This site would be a one-stop-shop for software, services and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> devices
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> for Ambient Assisted Living.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> We consider using OfBiz for implementation of uStore.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I would like to ask you several questions about the features we
> > want
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> implement. I would be glad to hear any information you can tell 
me
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> about
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> how hard could it be for us to implement these features. Please 
note
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> we have no prior experience with OfBiz.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Any your thoughts, intuition, experience, advice about
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> OfBiz/business
> > >>
> > >>> programming are welcome.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> In particular, the following information would help us very 
much :
> > >>>>>> How much work should be done by us in order to implement all 
the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> features
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> that follow (Person/Months, Person/Years, for skilled OfBiz
> > >>>>>> developers/general software engineers). Which part would be to 
use
> > >>>>>> existing "extension" mechanisms of OfBiz and which part would 
be
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> actually
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> changing the OfBiz code ? Here your intuition/experience from
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> related
> > >>
> > >>> projects is welcome, we do not need exact numbers, just a 
ballpark.
> > >>>>>> How much time the general software developers have to learn 
about
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> OfBiz
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> and how skilled in OfBiz  they should become in order to 
implement
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> these
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> features
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>         E-commerce website features:
> > >>>>>> Using e-commerce site for selling software (such as AppStore of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> iPhone)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> and downloadable files in general (video, presentations of 
courses
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> etc.).
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Here the issue is to manage links where the bought files could 
be
> > >>>>>> downloaded. The idea is to prevent a situation in which buyers
> > would
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> buy a
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> software application, receive a link to it for downloading and 
share
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> link afterwards with anybody they want, so anybody would be able 
to
> > >>>>>> download the application without paying for it.
> > >>>>>> Using e-commerce site for selling services (human services and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> others)
> > >>
> > >>> Extending e-commerce site with general widgets, such as calendar,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> clock,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> map, a widget for downloading files, etc., and integrating the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> widgets
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>>  with the OfBiz
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Integration with other websites/services:
> > >>>>>> Integrating an e-commerce website with another (non-OfBiz 
backed)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> site
> > >>
> > >>> -
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> adding possibility for sellers to add products to the e-commerce
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> site
> > >>
> > >>> via
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> the other site, to see customer feedback provided on the 
e-commerce
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> site
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> via the other site
> > >>>>>> Integrating an e-commerce website with another (possibly 
non-OfBiz)
> > >>>>>> e-commerce website, such as eBay/Amazon. What are the current
> > >>>>>> possibilities of integration with eBay ?
> > >>>>>> Integrating an e-commerce website with post/delivery 
services/sites
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Adding advanced features:
> > >>>>>> Adding support for signing business contracts between service
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> consumers
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> and service providers, between providers of different services 
etc.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> via
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> the e-commerce site
> > >>>>>> Adding support for applying capability/requirement model, such 
as
> > >>>>>> JSR-124,  (for example  for matching between customer's
> > requirements
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> capabilities of software, devices and services). The customer or
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> software
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> agent on behalf of the customer could provide his requirements 
as
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> part
> > >>
> > >>> of
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> his account information, and the e-commerce solution would match
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> between
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> the products (according to their capabilities) and the 
requirements
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> of
> > >>
> > >>> the
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> customers.
> > >>>>>> Has OfBiz a recommendation engine (providing recommendations to 
a
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> user
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>>  based on his activity - searches, purchases, reviews etc.) ? If 
no,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> how
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> hard would it be to add it ?
> > >>>>>> Can the OfBiz-based e-commerce web site be presented by 
browsers of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> smart
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> phones  ? How hard would it be to enable it ?
> > >>>>>> Changing search/recommendations of OfBiz to be based on the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> requirements
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> of the customer
> > >>>>>> Changing search/recommendations of OfBiz to be based on the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> geolocation of
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> the customer
> > >>>>>> Adding support for customization of products/services and 
changes
> > in
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> prices according to the customization during the purchase 
process
> > >>>>>> Adding support for a composition solution of hardware, software 
and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> human
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> services (bundles, kits). A seller could compose a new product 
by
> > >>>>>> combining several existing products
> > >>>>>> Adding support for manual approval of products by site
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> administrators
> > >>
> > >>> before submission of the products to the e-commerce site
> > >>>>>> Adding support for managing versions of the software 
applications
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> that
> > >>
> > >>> are
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> sold on the e-commerce website
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sorry for so many questions and sorry if some of them are out 
of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> context.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Best Regards,
> > >>>>>> Vadim
> > >>>>>> -------------------------------
> > >>>>>> Vadim Eisenberg
> > >>>>>> IT for Healthcare&   Life Sciences
> > >>>>>> IBM Research - Haifa
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> >

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