I couldn't disagree more. The OFBiz code base is a NIGHTMARE because of attempts at backward compatibility. This makes it incredibly difficult to customize because everything you look at has high levels of redundancy (causing all sorts of bugs and inconsistencies), and everything you touch breaks a couple of other things.
What the project needs is cutoff points at major revision releases after which attempts at backward compatibility are totally abandoned in favor of making something better. However, in a community driven project that just ain't gonna happen, for lots of reasons. So, those of you who like backward compatibility just look around that the incredible bulk of the project that has caused. OFBiz could be about 1/4 the size it is now with the same, or even more, functionality. Is that really worth all the backward compatibility? What if all of that bulk and ugliness and confusion causing stuff kills the project as leaner and better alternatives become available? Is that really worth the backward compatibility? -David On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Mike wrote: > Not to completely agree with Ruth and BJ [grin]... > > However on a practical viewpoint, all of the existing documentation of > OFBiz, including two hardcopy books (one of them Ruths) and countless > other PDFs (Ruths, etc..) and other sources of documentation shows the > flatgrey theme for screenshot examples. In addition, there are > (probably) various other organizational training manuals that exist > which would use flatgrey as screenshot examples (click here, etc.). > What about all the suppliers that have back-end access, do we also > have to instruct them about the new theme? What about their training > manuals? This was a HUGE change IMHO. > > So it's not the new theme, it's the deletion of the old one that's the > issue. From from day one, I tried all the other themes and I still > prefer the flatgrey, because I think it was a well thought out > navigation system. Dave did an excellent job tying all the functions > together into a nice, logical layout. The multiple tabs really work > for me. > > It's ok to change the default theme, but please let's not break the > backward compatibility of OFBiz's supporting infrastructure. > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Ruth Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yeah you do...live in a vacuum. IMHO and experience the PMC does live in a >> vacuum. As the saying goes...you guys "don't have a clue". >> Just my 2 cents. >> Ruth >> >> On 1/20/11 9:56 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>> >>> That's not true. Every change is discussed and debated. >>> >>> The OFBiz developers and the PMC don't live in a vacuum - they have >>> production systems to maintain. It is silly to think they would not consider >>> those production systems when proposing changes. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> --- On Thu, 1/20/11, BJ Freeman<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> you will find that the ofbiz >>>> developer group first priority is to change >>>> before considering the effect on production systemm using >>>> offbiz. >>>> something I lobby against, but has little effect. >>>> so I have a system to accomplish this regardless of what >>>> they do. >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike sent the following on 1/20/2011 3:38 PM: >>>>> >>>>> But why delete it? Alot of folks learned ofbiz >>>> >>>> on flatgrey, and their >>>>> >>>>> employees are used to it. At least keep it >>>> >>>> around as flatgrey_old. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Adrian Crum<[email protected]> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That theme was starting to look old, so the >>>> >>>> developer community decided to >>>>>> >>>>>> update it. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you prefer the old version of the theme, you >>>> >>>> are welcome to replace the >>>>>> >>>>>> new one with it. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/20/2011 3:21 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just loaded trunk and discovered that the >>>> >>>> normal flatgrey theme has >>>>>>> >>>>>>> been completely redefined. What >>>> >>>> happened? I thought it was actually >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the best theme that was very well >>>> >>>> organized. Is there a way to get it >>>>>>> >>>>>>> back? >>>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>
