category/catalog tree updated in r1063625

thanks for your comments!

Regards,
Hans

On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 11:06 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Jacopo,
> 
> Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r1059279. I wonder how I missed 
> that since I was inspired by 
> AgreementServices.getCommissionForProduct() :/
> 
> Hans: also could you please look at the catalogs/categories tree: there is 
> only Ids in it, at least we should rather have the names 
> (with the Ids would be better). Also, if  we could have different icons for 
> catalogs and categories...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jacques
> 
> From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[email protected]>
> >I think that we should not forget about this because the fix proposed by 
> >Jacques (thanks for this) should be considered a temporary 
> >one... for example it doesn't take into account validity dates of the 
> >relationship; as a side note, the same issue (validity dates 
> >ignored) was also in the original cod committed by Hans (see the 
> >isAlternativePacking method).
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jacopo
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Hans,
> >>
> >> This has introduced a bug I fixed at r1057153
> >>
> >> The isVirtual Product attribute shows around 160 times in 
> >> *form*.xml,*een*, *.gro*,*.ftl,*.java files. Of course I did not check 
> >> them all. But I'd be surprised if your change has not introduced some 
> >> other side effects...
> >>
> >> Could youy please have a look?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >> From: "Hans Bakker" <[email protected]>
> >>> This change is now implemented in r1040908
> >>>
> >>> Related to the comment from Scott, Instead of using the existing
> >>> association, we have created a new product association 'Alternative
> >>> Packaging' to not interfere with the usage of Scott.
> >>>
> >>> An explanation can be found at:
> >>> https://www.antwebsystems.com/content/control/ViewBlogArticle?articleContentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:06 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>> i could also add a new association type "alternative Uom" and then still
> >>>> use isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y...which would not block your usage....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 21:34 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
> >>>> > Hi Hans,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I'm still in favor of the approach that I suggested earlier and you 
> >>>> > haven't really mentioned why it wouldn't work for you. 
> >>>> > If > you like and if you are willing to wait a couple of days I could 
> >>>> > show you what I mean with some example entity xml data. 
> >>>> > You > could then load it into a demo instance and play around with it.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I haven't read your proposal in detail yet but I'm not really in favor 
> >>>> > of using the isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y combination to > 
> >>>> > indicate uom specific behavior.  I think it is quite possible for a 
> >>>> > product to have that combination in real life and using 
> >>>> > it > for something else would remove that possibility.  Imagine a 
> >>>> > variant that is itself also a virtual with its own child 
> >>>> > variants.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Regards
> >>>> > Scott
> >>>> >
> >>>> > HotWax Media
> >>>> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 11/11/2010, at 8:46 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > A longer explanation how we want to implement this can be found at:
> >>>> > > http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/ViewBlogArticle?contentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Regards,
> >>>> > > Hans
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:52 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>> > >> We are are still getting the best solution, help appreciated.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> We are thinking of the following:
> >>>> > >> you have a product which you sell in pieces and boxes of ten.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Then the product per piece is the lowest denominator and has a 
> >>>> > >> variant
> >>>> > >> association to a virtual/variant product which is an alternative
> >>>> > >> packaging of the product per piece and can have an adjusted price 
> >>>> > >> but no
> >>>> > >> inventory.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Currently the e-commerce checks for the virtual flag and want to 
> >>>> > >> show a
> >>>> > >> feature selection list, however in the case of the virtual- and 
> >>>> > >> variant
> >>>> > >> flag both set, it should not.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> When the box of 10 is selected, The productId per piece is selected 
> >>>> > >> with
> >>>> > >> the adjusted price of the box variant.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Comments very much appreciated.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Regards,
> >>>> > >> Hans
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:13 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>> > >>> For boxes of a product you'll usually have one product that 
> >>>> > >>> represents the individual items (which may or may not be for 
> >>>> > >>>  > >>> sale directly to the customer), and one that is a product 
> >>>> > >>> that represents the box and that is associated with the > 
> >>>> > >>>  >>> individual item. In OFBiz there are a few different product 
> >>>> > >>> types you can choose from to have the system handle the 
> >>>> > >>> box in > >>> different ways automatically, or you can use plain 
> >>>> > >>> old Finished Good to handle the boxes manually.
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> For certain products all you need is the three fields already on 
> >>>> > >>> the Product entity:
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> quantityUomId
> >>>> > >>> quantityIncluded
> >>>> > >>> piecesIncluded
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> For example if you have a six-pack of 12oz soda cans you would 
> >>>> > >>> have quantityIncluded=12, quantityUomId=oz, > >>> 
> >>>> > >>> piecesIncluded=6.
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> -David
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>> Hi Scott, this is sure an interesting idea, but then how does the 
> >>>> > >>>> system
> >>>> > >>>> know that they are for example 10 pieces in a box? I still what 
> >>>> > >>>> to have
> >>>> > >>>> the same inventory for boxes and pieces.
> >>>> > >>>> We should be able to store the conversion between the uom's for 
> >>>> > >>>> this
> >>>> > >>>> product somewhere?
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> Thanks for you input!
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> Regards,
> >>>> > >>>> Hans
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 17:39 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>> Hi Hans,
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> Sorry if this is a silly question, but why not just use 
> >>>> > >>>>> different products for different UOMs?  You could use > >>>>> 
> >>>> > >>>>> virtual/variants if you wanted the UOM to be selectable on a 
> >>>> > >>>>> single product page and also marketing packages to > >>>>> 
> >>>> > >>>>> automatically produce inventory for the desired UOM from the 
> >>>> > >>>>> base UOM.
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> Regards
> >>>> > >>>>> Scott
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>> > >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> On 3/10/2010, at 3:54 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> Thank you BJ,
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> I had in mind to create and 'productUomAlternatives' table to 
> >>>> > >>>>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>> product with a conversion for example from pieces to boxes with 
> >>>> > >>>>>> an
> >>>> > >>>>>> optional price adjustment percentage.
> >>>> > >>>>>> The system will have however only one uom where everything gets
> >>>> > >>>>>> converted to.
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> Anybody else other solutions?
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>> > >>>>>> Hans.
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 10:21 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>> Yes also like a Feed store will have boxes, Sacks, and loose 
> >>>> > >>>>>>> feed.
> >>>> > >>>>>>> I used the multiple pricing model for the Uom Measure
> >>>> > >>>>>>> in the product screen made it allow multiple UOM.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> added to the code that converts from what is received in 
> >>>> > >>>>>>> inventory to
> >>>> > >>>>>>> what is sold so it walks through the Uom. for instance a feed 
> >>>> > >>>>>>> store
> >>>> > >>>>>>> Receives feed in Bulk and then sacks it as inventory is 
> >>>> > >>>>>>> required.
> >>>> > >>>>>>> The Inventory levels have to be checked  to see how many in a 
> >>>> > >>>>>>> product
> >>>> > >>>>>>> run to generate to sack up the grain. This Triggers an Seca.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> I think a nice touch would be that the could generates the 
> >>>> > >>>>>>> product data
> >>>> > >>>>>>> to show up in orders, based on the Uoms that were generated 
> >>>> > >>>>>>> for the
> >>>> > >>>>>>> products. it would follow the same model for inventory levels 
> >>>> > >>>>>>> on the
> >>>> > >>>>>>> orderentry and Ecommerce
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> Hans Bakker sent the following on 10/2/2010 4:29 AM:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> A question to the community:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> sometimes the same products are sold with different units of 
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> measure.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Example gold jewelry.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Per piece, per box of 10, per box of 50 and per gram gold 
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> weight.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Is here a preference how to implement that?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Remember this has to show up in e-commerce, orders, shipments 
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> and
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> invoices...
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hans
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
> >>>> > >>>>>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
> >>>> > >>>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
> >>>> > >>>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
> >>>> > >>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > -- > > Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
> >>>> > > Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
> >>>> > > Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
> >>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
> >>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 
> 
> 

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