Hi David:
Of course there are two concepts here! Actually, there are more than two
concepts at play. But I'm going to leave it at that and let the audience
be the judge.
As for "mis-information", come on now. This isn't misinformation...this
is a clarification of something that was never clearly delineated in the
first place...I suggest you sit back, take a "chill pill" or whatever
you do to calm down, and once you are in a more magnanimous frame of
mind, critically review the aforementioned glossary.
At that point, I think you may be ready to address what is really on
your mind: "no wonder people have so many issues with OFBiz....I don't
know exactly what we can do about all of this, but being more careful
and detailed might be a good start for all of us."
I'd be more than happy to spend time discoursing with you or anyone
about the merits of OFBiz. My theory of the case: "David, people do not
have so many issues with OFBiz. You do!"
I'll leave you with this little gem: You'd be really amazed at what
people are doing with OFBiz these days. Mis-information not withstanding.
Best Regards,
Ruth
http://www.myofbiz.com
BTW, I didn't ask
On 12/9/11 9:31 PM, David E Jones wrote:
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
Hi David:
Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for your input. I have some
responses. Please see below:
On 12/9/11 4:44 PM, David E Jones wrote:
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
2) If you look at how vendor/supplier is used in some of the OFBiz
applications, you might observe that:
A vendor "supplies" goods or services to the Company of record for the
OFBiz instance. Those goods or services may be raw materials for
manufacturing, products for resale on the ecommerce site or computers to
run your business. When a vendor (with a record in the VENDOR table)
supplies you with something, they are acting in a role called a
"SUPPLIER".
So, in the OFBiz world, my interpretation is: A vendor is a supplier. It
is as simple as that. Anything more is making it too complicated :-)
Anyone care to comment on my interpretation?
Actually a Supplier is a Party the sells things to the company running
OFBiz, hence the SupplierProduct entity. In other words, a purchase
order is sent to a Supplier.
A vendor is also a Party that could sell things to the company running
OFBiz. Just depends on how you set up your accounting system and how you
name your accounts.
The term vendor doesn't mean much in OFBiz, but has been used for any
Party that sells something. For example, if you have multiple stores in
your OFBiz instance you may have a vendor per store. You could also have
multiple vendors selling through a single store.
Seems to me if the Party sells something and the term vendor is used to
express that activity, then the term DOES have lots of meaning. OFBiz
e-commerce, after all, is all about selling products.
That said, there is also an entity named VendorProduct that when coupled
with the Vendor entity may be used in the same way as the
SupplierProduct entity. Perhaps I should have said a vendor is a type of
supplier? Unfortunately (or maybe fortuneately - who is to say?), the
data model does not enforce this relationship.
Okay, so did you ask to get an answer, or did you ask to start a
discussion? It's not like this is open to interpretation, this was
discussed and decided on a long time ago.
A supplier sells stuff to the company running OFBiz. A vendor sells
stuff to the customers of the company, and a vendor could be an
affiliate or consignment seller sort of thing.
The SupplierProduct and VendorProduct entities are VERY different and
meant to model these 2 totally different things. I'm sorry, but looking
at them again to make sure, I'm not even sure how they could possibly be
confused.
They are not really equivalent terms.
Maybe, maybe not, but I would argue, based on the data model, that they
ARE equivalent terms when a vendor acts in the role of supplier.
Regardless, there is really no need to make this more confusing or
complex than it already is.
There is a clear distinction here. It's not making things complex, it's
two different concepts. It's not one concept, that would be
over-simplifying it. It is two separate, distinct concepts that need
different words, and have them.
Damn, with all the mis-information buzzing around these lists no wonder
people have so many issues with OFBiz. Of course, OFBiz itself is
admittedly complex and often unclear or just plain buggy and
inconsistent, so this is understandable.
I don't know exactly what we can do about all of this, but being more
careful and detailed might be a good start for all of us.
-David
