Hello,
I followed the discussion "Lose Weight Program for OFBiz" on the
development Mailing List with great interest. IIRC the ecommerce
application is one of the only applications not going to be moved to
extra. I have to admit that I am mainly interested in this application,
therefor I could be very biased ;-)
Anyway, the "cleanup" of the whole ofbiz system is IMHO discussed in a
sensible and structured way, and I do really appreciate the time and
effort the community puts into this. The diet of ofbiz seems to be
needed for the next steps of the ofbiz future, and therefor I do fully
support these steps. I am already contributing some things (see Jira
Tickets) and I am definitly going to do so in the future. I do hope that
the system stays stable and will "grow" in the future to become the
"main ERP" (well for me the "main eCommerce")-System of the Open Source
Java world.
R,
Markus
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:00:04 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
(I also copied the user list because users are heavily impacted here.
Users please read the development forum at http://www.ofbiz.info)
Hi Everybody interested in the future of ofbiz,
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*i am very concerned with the current route which is proposed by
Jacopo in the development mailing list: "Lose Weight Program for
OFBiz"*
Why?
Have only a minimal core ERP with minimal functionality, anything
extra is moved to either:
1. *Apache extras* (http://www.apache-extras.com) which is just a url
link menu into "Google projects" This will not be maintained by the
Apache OFBiz committers and only outside the Apache environment.
2. *attic* (abandoned=deleted)
Pushing out complete components and functions like for example all
components in the specialized directory such as e-commerce, project
manager, asset manager and others and also Birt (Reporting)
integration out of the OFBiz core system will actually mean:
components will be abandoned even when stored in "apache extra's" and
will be picked up by commercial companies like mine (Antwebsystems)
and others and will promote them as commercial add-ons for a fee.
[my Antwebsystems CEO hat on]
Actually we (AntWebsystems) already started the process a couple of
months ago, we have internal chat/live chat(see our website),
twitter,
sitemap, saas/tenant extension, shindig/igoogle integration, task
manager and more because a number of committers objected that we
added
more functions, so we stopped contributing major functions.
[my Apache PMC member hat on]
This can now happen with anything that will be removed from the core
system. There are many articles about the commercialization of open
source products on the internet, examples are Sugercrm and Magento
and
OFBiz will be the next one:
*In the future, a reasonable OFBiz system cannot be be run without
commercial extra's!
*
Please keep this in mind if you react on the proposal "Lose Weight
Program for OFBiz": do not agree too easily.
[my Antwebsystems CEO hat on]
From a commercialization point of view please remove as much as
possible.....
[my Apache PMC member hat on]
Only remove the component/functions which are not maintained.
Regards,
Hans Bakker
*Proud Apache OFBiz PMC member* and yes also CEO Antwebsystems
Co.Ltd.
