On 4/28/2012 11:20 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
Having adopted Ofbiz Model in 2002 for my business, I am both a User and developer. the Developer was more forced, do to the attitude that prevailed at the time. A re-occurring theme I have heard over the years is that Ofbiz was created to generate revenue for those developers that had an Ofbiz email address that has been since moved to hotwax.

That is not an accurate description. OFBiz started out as a programming project for a specific client, and that project was made open source.

Since then, many of the contributions made to OFBiz are driven by clients who fund the development. Other contributions are volunteer efforts (the refactorings I've done are an example).

Also that those that are first to contribute have the control of the particular projecct, even if it does not fight the model ofbiz started with.

Maybe that is because the model changes over time. That is not a bad thing. There are some things in the original OFBiz that were done wrong. Should we keep them that way forever?

Many contribute based on their background that corrupts the ofbiz model, particularly how UI is created.

If you have something specific in mind, then please open a Jira issue and provide a patch.

All these things and few other less significant attitudes has left me no other choice than to not use the ofbiz repository as a source of solutions. First I have a business to run, and the volatility of the Code does not make it any easier to have dependable, Stable code base or operation parameters. Second the code base is used as a developer playground, not to service the end user.

That phrase keeps popping up, but I have no idea what it means. I have been involved with the project for 8 years, and I can't see where anyone is using OFBiz as a "developer's playground." From my perspective, the OFBiz developer community is composed of skilled professionals who work hard to make OFBiz a stable, robust platform for web application development.

We review the commits for Ideas but implement them to fit the model we started out with.
In my view there is no roadmap for ofbiz just a bunch of Kludges.
As you see I monitor the ML, but don't see any use in contributing.

Everyone can choose to curse the darkness or light a candle. From what I recall, whenever you have been asked to provide a patch to address your concerns, you create a Jira issue but don't provide a patch, or you make an excuse why you can't be bothered. The bottom line is, you get out of OFBiz what you put into it. So, if you're not getting anything out of OFBiz...

-Adrian

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