Ted,

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Pierre

2012/7/27 Ted Byers <[email protected]>

> Thanks Deepak and Rishi
>
> I guess I have some studying to do..  I guess I have some studying to do.
>
> I may have some questions by the time I am done, though.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Rishi Solanki <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > Check the Manufacturing and WorkEffort component for #3. I would say #3
> is
> > also available. For specific requirements may need customization.
> >
> > --
> > Rishi Solanki
> > Manager, Enterprise Software Development
> > HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd.
> > Direct: +91-9893287847
> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Deepak Agarwal <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Following are my opinions. Rest, experts can comment.
> > > 1) Yes. ofbiz can run on a single server or cloud for multiple
> > > organizations where each organizations can maintain their own
> warehouses,
> > > stores, catalog and websites. An advance purchase order is supported by
> > > ofbiz. You can receive inventory to any warehouse. There are easy
> ON/OFF
> > > mechanism to make functionalities mandatory and optional.
> > > 1a) Ofbiz is SOA based so not much trouble intereacting with other
> > system,
> > > it is as easy as adding export='true' to a ofbiz service which will
> > export
> > > the service as SOAP or json.
> > > 2) An example component hhfacility (handheld) is their with the ofbiz
> to
> > > demonstrate it.
> > > 3) Do not know
> > > 4) Yes. It is there.
> > > 5) Most of the payment integration is already setup but any other
> > > integration is quite easy and with for a good developer it will take 2
> > days
> > > max
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Ted Byers <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All.
> > > >
> > > > I just discovered your website last night.  When I read that one can
> > set
> > > up
> > > > multiple parties, or companies, in the same installation, I was
> > excited.
> > > > But then, looking at the BPL referenced on your site, I was
> > disappointed
> > > as
> > > > it seems to deal only with the buying and selling of products.
> > > >
> > > > To put this into context, I was asked by a local contractor to
> > > investigate
> > > > the availability of software that is easy to use and that would help
> > him
> > > > keep track of inventory, labou costs, and to relate these material
> > costs
> > > to
> > > > 'jobs'.  That is, if he gets a contract to repair or re-shingle a
> roof,
> > > he
> > > > needs a) support for entering the data that tells him how large or
> > small
> > > > the job is, what materials are used, and how many labourers work on
> it
> > > and
> > > > for how long.  And he wants output in a form that he can just pass to
> > his
> > > > accountant (for task purposes).  And he wants support for the task of
> > > > entering the parameters that determine the size or scope of the job
> and
> > > > estimates, from the history of himselve and his labourers, how long
> it
> > > will
> > > > take and what the cost will be (so, e.g., he can tell prospective
> > clients
> > > > what the upper limit on cost and duration will be based onthe upper
> 99%
> > > > confidence interval of the mean cost and time; and this is so he can
> > > build
> > > > a reputation for being early and under-budget when he gives his
> > > > estimates).  The contractor I spoke with told me he had seen insanely
> > > > expensive software that the really, really big contractors use for
> this
> > > > purpose, but he also said that when he spoke with the people that
> > > actually
> > > > have to use that software, they indicated they hated it because it
> was
> > > hard
> > > > to understand and harder still to use.  Ease of use, and an interface
> > > that
> > > > is intuitive even for a secondary school graduate with limited
> > knowledge
> > > of
> > > > either business or IT, are high on my list of priorities.
> > > >
> > > > He also told me that while the contractors he knows are capable
> people,
> > > > when it comes to IT they are 'luddites', unaware of what IT can do
> and
> > > how
> > > > it can be used.  This means that, if I find something useful for him
> > and
> > > > his peers, the interface has to be simple and intuitive to anyone who
> > can
> > > > read.
> > > >
> > > > Now, before I spend a large amount of time investigating how to
> install
> > > and
> > > > configure OFBiz, and working through the documentation (which seems
> > > > unusually good for an open source product), can I trouble you for
> some
> > > > quick yes/no answers, perhaps accompanied by URLs where the subject
> of
> > my
> > > > questions is discussed at length.  I can deal with technical
> > information,
> > > > having developed commercial software. products for close to three
> > decades
> > > > in Pascal, C/C++, Java (and related, such as JSP/JSF), Perl,
> > > > HTML/Javascript, and SQL.  (So, if need be, I can dig into the OFBiz
> > code
> > > > and extend it: but only if there is no other option).
> > > >
> > > > Let's suppose, for the sake of my questions, that I am looking to
> help
> > > Fred
> > > > the plumber, Sam the roofer, and George the carpenter.
> > > >
> > > > 1)  Is it true that I can set up OFBiz on one server (probably in the
> > > > cloud), and then set up Fred, Sam and George as separete companies,
> > each
> > > > with his own, limited, inventory?  (many contractors do not keep an
> > > > inventory, which is something I'd have to be able to support also,
> but
> > > some
> > > > hhave observed they can get, and thus offer, better prices if they
> buy
> > > > certain raw materials in bulk - I think I'd need also to be able to
> > > provide
> > > > support for timing purchases, so that the contractors know how long,
> on
> > > > average, their suppliers take to fill and ship an order, so they then
> > > know
> > > > at what inventory level they ought to place their next order to
> ensure
> > > they
> > > > don't run out of stock on critical supplies)  Or did I misunderstand
> > > what I
> > > > have read so far?
> > > >
> > > > 1a) would it be much of a stretch to have some sort of integration
> with
> > > > suppliers' systems, so that if a supplier's systems support it, the
> > > > contractors can use OFBiz to place orders with their suppliers
> online,
> > > and
> > > > then either subsequently pick up the order or wait for it to be
> > delivered
> > > > to either their warehouse or their job site?  What would be involved
> in
> > > > configuring Fred 's company and supply chain so that he could query a
> > > > supplier's API to verify the supplier has stock on what he needs, and
> > > then
> > > > place an order for these supplies, &c. &c., &c.?
> > > >
> > > > 2) Is there an interface, that displays well, and is usable, on any
> > > mobile
> > > > device, so that any of them can go into any of the building supply
> > > > companies they rely on, purchase what they need, and enter that fact
> > into
> > > > OFBi, so the items purchased can be added to their respective
> > > inventories?
> > > >
> > > > 3) Is there a similar interface that lets them go to a job site, with
> > > some
> > > > portion of his inventory, and record the allocation of that inventory
> > to
> > > > that job, as well as assign selected labourers to that job (some of
> > whom
> > > > may be regular employees and others being casual labourers or
> > > > subcontractors)?  In fact, the contractor I spoke with said he'd like
> > to
> > > be
> > > > able to take all the inventory required for a job to the job site at
> > the
> > > > beginning, and record the time his labourers begin work, and then
> > return
> > > to
> > > > the job site at the end fo the day to record how much inventory had
> > been
> > > > used and when the labourers quit for the day.  And, he wanted QA
> info,
> > > > relating amounts of warranty service he needs to provide given the
> > > > materials (and their source) and the labourers he has used on each
> job,
> > > so
> > > > that he can then know what to correct in terms of materials selected
> > for
> > > > future jobs, retraining of labourers, &c.
> > > >
> > > > 4) This is a question of security.  If I set something up for these
> > guys,
> > > > I'd want both server and client ceertificates.  Thus, the question
> has
> > a
> > > > few parts. a) How does  one configure it so that it uses a server
> > > > certificate (wheher self signed or from a CA)? and b) Can it handle
> > > > creation of a local CA and use it to issue client certificates to
> each
> > of
> > > > the users, and this online through a special page (accessible only
> over
> > > the
> > > > latest version of TLS, and using stong, single use credentials) that
> > > > presents the user with a series of challenges, and if the responses
> > > > returned are consistent with what the user gave the RA, proceeds to
> > walk
> > > > the user through the process (as simple as possible) of creating,
> > > signing,
> > > > and installing the required client certificate?  I know how to
> > configure
> > > > Apache's httpd server to require client certificates for a specific
> > > > location, but how does one do that using OFBiz?  And, finally, for
> this
> > > > question, is there support for using client certificates to encrypt
> and
> > > > sign documents; and for use of client certificates to support
> > > > non-repudiation in the ecommerce modules of OFBiz?
> > > >
> > > > 5) For the ecommerce modules, just how far in supporting electronic
> > > > transactions do you go?  I have developed my share of gateway APIs,
> and
> > > > integrated them with the APIs provided by certain processing banks
> and
> > > > other gateways.  To use your ecommerce modules, does one need to do
> > some
> > > > programming to complete the integration with the user's bank or
> > gateway,
> > > or
> > > > is that complete and all that remains is that the user configure it
> > with
> > > > his mid information?  And, related to that, is there reporting
> provided
> > > to
> > > > let the merchant assess the performance of each mid (approval/decline
> > > > ratios, refund and chargeback ratios, &c.) and risk related to
> refunds
> > > and
> > > > chargebacks (which determines just how much funds the merchant should
> > > have
> > > > in reserve in order to be able to fund any refunds and chargebacks
> that
> > > > arise after some catastophe that results in him being unable to
> process
> > > > further sale transactions?
> > > >
> > > > I suspect that the answer to most of my questions will be yes, and
> > > someone
> > > > will point me to one or another portion of your documentation.  I do
> > have
> > > > browser windows open the the beginning pages of each of the documents
> > you
> > > > have.  However, time is short and before I spend a lot of time on
> > > studying
> > > > that material, I'd like confirmation that what I would need to be
> able
> > to
> > > > do is possible or even easy.
> > > >
> > > > Show stoppers would be no support for the concept of a job, along
> with
> > > > allocating inventory and manpower to each job, and inadequate support
> > for
> > > > security, including proper generation and use of client certificates.
> > > >
> > > > So, can all this be handled out fo the box, as it were, by OFBiz, or
> > > would
> > > > I have to do a lot of programming myself to provide complete support
> > for
> > > > everything these guys would need?  And if I would have to do a lot of
> > > > programming of this myself, would it be easier for me to start
> > > development
> > > > de novo and build it all using Perl, HTML5/Javascript, and SQL (in
> > iether
> > > > Postgres or MySQL)?  I really don't want to be spending days or weeks
> > > > building/installing/configuring it only to find it can't handle
> > > everything
> > > > I need to do.
> > > >
> > > > I'd appreciate any information you can provide.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Deepak Agarwal,
> > > >
> > > > Paxcel Technologies Pvt Ltd.
> > > > Hartron Complex, Sector 18, Gurgaon, India.
> > > > E-Mail: [email protected]
> > > > Mobile: +91 9910322604
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> R.E.(Ted) Byers, Ph.D.,Ed.D.
> [email protected]
> CTO
> Merchant Services Corp.
> 17665 Leslie st., unit 30
> Newmarket , Ontario
> L3Y 3E3
>

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