Sascha, Paul,

thanks for your interesting reports.

Jacopo

On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Paul Piper wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only,
> so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally
> experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there). 
> 
> During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks:
> 
> * One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide)
> * One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group
> (Myself - Paul)
> * One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal  (Olivier)
> 
> As a short wrap-up to those: 
> 
> OFBiz Addons:
> Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been
> developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before.
> Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for
> merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking
> was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to
> manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or
> not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as
> well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras
> project.
> 
> General Introduction to OFBiz & target group: 
> I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target
> group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and
> its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was
> proposed that our target group was mostly "mid- to largesize" businesses,
> due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on
> how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed:
> 1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the
> framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less – make
> it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material
> (developers & companies)
> 
> OFBiz Extras: 
> Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject "OFBiz Extras" in
> which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to
> strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on
> the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based
> upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic
> checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based
> on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and
> documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to
> handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The
> concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the
> commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz
> may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of
> sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope.
> 
> Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a
> private evening discussion. In it we discussed "OFBiz Alliance" and its
> implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present
> agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing
> material which could be used by the general public.
> 
> Cheers,
> Paul
> 
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
> 
> Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jacopo
> 
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
> 
>> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at 
>>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>> 
>> [..]
>> 
>>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have 
>>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra, 
>>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of 
>>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on 
>>> who is present.
>>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and 
>>> which subject would be interesting and/or important.
>> 
>> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the 
>> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>> 
>> Christian
> 
> 
> 

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