Thanks very much for the information, Mr. Le Roux. I'm not sure what I might be able to do to help the project, so I'll look into the contributor thing. Considering how little time I've had to spend on my company's OFBiz rollout, I'm still counted among the newest of the newbies. I am starting to learn a few things, though, from following these mailing list threads.
>From the long "OFBiz.org site: easier navigation to Service Providers and End Users" thread that's been bouncing around here (it has evolved into more of an admin discussion than a user discussion), I gather that I could create my own OFBiz-related content (e.g. documentation) to be hosted elsewhere, so long as I adhere to OFBiz/ASF guidelines. Heck, even books are possible, if I manage to grab enough of a clue. All in all, I need to learn more before I can start creating anything. That's ok, though, I'm accustomed to the tech writer process. I don't want to take up people's time on this user-specific mailing list for the sake of a corollary technical project, so I'll try to keep it to a bunch of "Hey, how does this work in OFBiz" questions until I have some kind of alpha-release announcement for other users. Thanks again. On 14-02-23 04:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > I'm not quite sure what you are looking for > > Before living the project David created a space for requirements > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Home But it's not > open like the wiki. > > In the wiki you have this blank page > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Requirements+gathering > with children pages > > You can edit and create you own pages in the wiki as soon as you are > registered as a contributor (see explanation at top of each wiki page) > > HTH > > Jacques > > Le 13/02/2014 20:22, Todd Thorner a écrit : >> Hi Ted, >> >> I'm still in full-doofus mode regarding OFBiz and its capabilities for >> integrating with third-party services/apps from various >> frameworks/languages. I'm not even strong enough on the uptake to know >> whether something like the ASF's Camel project might be stepping in the >> right direction. >> >> I haven't thought much about UML diagramming tools since I used the old >> Rational Rose product while doing some Struts 1.x web app programming >> (over 10 years ago). I'm afraid that when it comes to >> design/development/implementation this tech writer is always playing >> catch-up with the professionals. Documentation is my strength. >> >> That said, diagramming some use cases in UML would be an important >> consideration for coming up with answers to various questions that >> C-levels might have while conducting OFBiz cost-benefit analyses. I >> know that Ruth Hoffman wrote a great introductory book about high-level >> OFBiz ecommerce functionality, a solid jumping-off point for business >> managers who are as IT-non-savvy as I am. >> >> I am among the demographic of end users for such hand-holding >> documentation. How can another OFBIz-related project help potential end >> users take that next step from Hoffman's introductory book toward >> practical milestones? >> >> Perhaps gathering requirements would be a reasonable place to start. I >> will evaluate options for hosting such a collaborative documentation >> project (question for OFBiz site admins: is there a sandbox area in the >> wiki that is available?) >> >> I sense a tiny bit of traction. Here's hoping it gets beyond just a few >> people talking around one another. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 14-02-13 10:12 AM, Ted Byers wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Todd Thorner >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, Mr. Byers, for posting such a remark-worthy suggestion, and >>>> thank you, Mr. Rosser, for providing the inertia that might help start >>>> an exciting new OFBiz-related project (congrats as well on securing a >>>> happy jeweler client). >>>> >>>> I would be an enthusiastic participant in any documentation project >>>> whose outcome helped business managers become dedicated OFBiz end >>>> users. >>>> Indeed, I am one such hopeful business manager, excited by the >>>> prospect >>>> of having OFBiz at the core of my transactional processes, daunted by >>>> the IT learning curve. >>>> >>>> I am by trade a tech writer with over 15 years of experience, mostly >>>> doing API docs for SDK products. I also have a Fine Arts degree in >>>> Creative Writing, and those two properties combined make me one of the >>>> most sought-after writers in the Vancouver IT industry. I am, though, >>>> as I said, now working on becoming a successful business owner. >>>> >>>> From my perspective, this might be a proverbial golden opportunity. I >>>> would learn a lot and move up that learning curve, plus I have much to >>>> offer those who seek to improve OFBiz documentation and attract more >>>> CFOs & CMOs to the product. >>>> >>>> I ask the community how a prospective team might start a workflow >>>> (Agile >>>> or whatever) for such a project. Would a focal point of managing >>>> productivity be JIRA or something like that? Is there an >>>> eat-the-dog-food instance of OFBiz out there allowing authorized >>>> contributors to use its Scrum functionality? Maybe even its CMS >>>> interface? I would love to help make OFBiz compatible with any >>>> arbitrary CMIS-compliant product, but that's just me... >>>> >>>> Thanks for everything that everyone does to make this product >>>> world-class. >>>> >>>> >>> You're welcome Todd, >>> >>> I don't have a specific answer for the questions you raise. I >>> generally go >>> with whatever works with the team with whom I am working at the time. >>> >>> My priority, right now, is to first learn how to set up a multi-tenant >>> installation of OFBiz, as well as a multi-site installation of >>> wordpress; >>> and then how to integrate the two so that OFBiz's ecommerce component >>> can >>> be used to handle payment for subscriptions to the contents on one or >>> more >>> of the sites in the Wordpress installation. I'd also want to be able to >>> support use of, the relevant back office components (e.g. the >>> accounting), >>> for a venture that is focused on publishing. >>> >>> I then want to install Redmine, in order to be able to exploit it's >>> project >>> management features (including issue/bug tracking). I have not yet >>> begun >>> to see to what extent Redmine's capabilities are complementary to >>> OFBiz's >>> capabilities or how much overlap there may be, e.g., WRT the work effort >>> components). While Redmine, itself, integrates into a couple version >>> control products (notably Subversion), it does not seem to have, as >>> far as >>> I can tell, support for any of the UML diagrams. What I am keeping >>> an eye >>> out for is an open source product that both relates each UML diagram >>> (such >>> as a use case scenario) to one or more items on a wish list (easily >>> created >>> in Redmine), as well as relating each use case diagram to the code that >>> implements it. Do you, or anyone else, know of an open source >>> product that >>> supports UML documentation, that could be integrated with Redmine? One >>> that can construct a suite of UML documents given a codebase (and >>> that can >>> be used to construct a complete set of UML diagrams, or at least use >>> case >>> and E-R diagrams, for OFBiz, WordPress and Redmine), would be >>> particularly >>> useful as that could automatically provide core design documentation, >>> and >>> the use case documents could be used both to provide feature lists and a >>> suite of howto documents. Is there any automated tool to make the >>> documentation task easier? >>> >>> One of the things that makes this especially daunting is that OFBiz >>> is Java >>> while Wordpress is PHP and Redmine is Ruby. And there are a few >>> features >>> that do not seem to exist that I would probably implement in a mix of >>> Perl >>> and C++. Integration of web apps involving such a mix of languages is >>> something I have not yet tried (all the web apps I have developed >>> have been >>> either entirely Perl (with JavaScript on the client side) or a mix of >>> Java >>> Servlets+JSP/JSF, so I am unsure of how to integrate two apps that >>> use very >>> different technologies, and especially how to maintain session info >>> in that >>> effort. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Ted >>>
