On 3/7/2014 11:24 PM, Ejaz Ahmed wrote:
Adrian,

Just few questions from your earlier emails in developer mailing list:

My preference would be to create a branch and start building things out
there - with the help of others. The goal would be to start over from
scratch - using sound design principles and the lessons learned from the
current code.

If ofbiz is so much scalable and up to date with technology, why do you want 
start
rebasing such a stable and well proven software to something which is yet to be 
developed
and that too from scratch.


Some things cannot be fixed with small modifications. One example:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5534

will require a rewrite. In addition, OFBiz cannot use multi-threaded code due to the transaction handling design. Changing that design could improve performance significantly. There are other problems with the current transaction handling design:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1029

read the excellent PDF attachment.

There are other reasons that were referenced in the original email.



By the way, if you make this branch and start building OFBIZ on top of Moqui, I 
will be much happy.
Same was suggested by Piere Smits on dev mailing list and Al will also be happy 
with it.

If there is support for this effort, then I can begin working on it in
February. If not, then I will most likely start a separate project -
similar to the approach taken by Moqui.

If you are so much impressed by Moqui's approach, then why don't you want to 
join hands with
David and address all those issue which you think are copied from ofbiz. There 
are so many
people out there who think Moqui is the right choice.


I didn't say I was impressed by Moqui's approach. I said I will spin off a separate project the way Moqui did.

I will support an effort to switch to Moqui if anyone wants to work on it. My preference is for us to build our own framework. I believe our combined experience will produce a superior product.



Moqui copies problems from our existing framework, I want to fix them.
David might not have done this intentionally, but no one will stop you fixing 
those in Moqui instead of
starting a new framework from scratch.
Therefore, I have to come to the same conclusion David did: Innovation
is impossible in this community, so it needs to be done somewhere else.

You argue that innovation is impossible in this community but still oppose the 
fact that ofbiz is a sinking ship.

It would be a great loss for the community if you too follow the David's 
approach
of leaving this community. If this happens, ofbiz will surely be a sinking ship.


I don't agree. Over the years, many key players have left the OFBiz developer community, and it still marches on.


Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

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