Eric,

I am not sure how newer version will behave. I think you would need to test it and may be adjust things here and there to make it work.

Thanks,

Raj

On Monday 07 July 2014 08:29 AM, Eric Halim wrote:
Thanks Rajbir,

The link you gave seems outdated already.
Doc says about
1. OpenLdap 2.3.8 (Currently now OpenLdap 2.4.39)
2. CAS 3.2.1.1 (Currently CAS 4.0)
3. Ofbiz 4.0 (Currently Ofbiz 12.4.3)

Does it still acceptable?


-----Original Message-----
From: Rajbir Saini [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OfBiz with JForum

One more option you can consider is single sign on (SS0). CAS is one such 
system and it can be backed by LDAP or DBMS. Looking at [1] it looks CAS is 
already integrated with OFBiz. It should not be difficult to integrate the 
JForum with CAS as well. Once you have the SSO in place (Using CAS or some 
other product), your users will be able to login once either using JForum or 
OFBiz and access both applications seamlessly.

[1] https://wiki.jasig.org/display/CASC/CASifying+Apache+OFBiz

Regards,

Raj

On Sunday 06 July 2014 05:57 AM, Eric Halim wrote:
Thank you Ron and Pierre for thorough discussion. Both have points for me to 
consider.

But actually I will go for the easiest solution because I'm such a newbie to 
Ofbiz. I don't really concern whether JForum will be run independently or 
integrated into Ofbiz component.

I will think about these three solutions.

1. User must register and login from Ofbiz and cannot register from JForum. I 
will disable the register link on JForum. Users data will then be replicated to 
JForum. Then using webservice as Taher mentioned earlier to authenticate the 
users.

2. Setup Apache Directory Server for managing LDAP and integration. Setup LDAP 
for both Ofbiz and JForum. As Pierre mentioned. Both then authenticate against 
LDAP.

3. Bring JForum into Ofbiz component then use external login key for 
authentication. This one I still don't know the details how to do it.

Thanks all.

On Jul 6, 2014 6:44 AM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]> wrote:
Ron, all,

For sure, every contribution added to this discussion will help Eric
to make a thought through decision based on various viewpoints.

Luckily, we can agree that hardware cost aren't that much of an issue
any more these days. Unfortunately, metrics (of various kinds) and/or
(other) statistics supporting various business scenarios are not
available indicating what path to follow with OFBiz.

The statement that some organisations don't want to mix front-end
(eCommerce) with back-end (accounting, inventory mgt, etc) on one
system supports the advice not to combine OFBiz with a solution like
JForum on one system. But OFBiz is also suitable for organisations
who do want to separate front-end from back-end. Multi-spoke setup is
possible and addresses the scale up aspect.

Whether JForum is the way to go is for each individual organisation
to investigate. I, for one, just hope that when anyone participant in
this community opt for an integration option (whatever it may be), he
or she will share experiences here so others can benefit from it.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Ron Wheeler
<[email protected]
wrote:
On 05/07/2014 7:15 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

HI Eric,

First of all, OFBiz has a unique set of functionalities that caters
first to the handling of business transactions. Adding some
component functionality that isn't inline with that is putting the
handling of those business transactions at risk. In the case of
forum functionality related to eCommerce, it could be so that the
number of forum postings grows to such proportions that it might jeopardise the 
transaction handling.

OTOH, if the forum increases sales to existing customer by 10%, adds
5% to the sales to new customers, reduces product returns by 30% and
reduces customer support costs by 20% it might be worth the extra
costs of scaling up the OfBiz configuration.

The reduction in transaction related to returns and customer support
might not offset the extra transactions caused by additional sales
but that is unlikely to bring complaints from management.

If the forum activities do not generate addition revenue or customer
satisfaction or reduce costs, you can always turn it off.

It is difficult to make business decisions or propose IT trade-offs
for organizations that you don't know or for general populations of
potential installations of OfBiz.



So, from a business continuity angle having both in/on one system
is not advisable.

Not sure that this conclusion is true in every case or that there
are not available solutions for scaling problems.
You can make the same argument for many features in an ERP. For
example, many companies do not mix eCommerce with accounting in the same system.

Apart from that, leveraging JForum with OFBiz data and vice-versa
is doable. But there are intricacies. You have to take the
following into
consideration:


       1. You're JForum participants can also register without ever
using OFBiz

       eCommerce. So you need means to get the user's profile data into OFBiz
       2. When using LDAP as the means to do authentication and
authorization

       in both JForum and OFBiz you need to set both up to use that.
       3. For OFBiz, currently there is no integrated functionality
available

       that updates the LDAP data when user details (userid, first name, last
       name, password, etc) are modified in OFBiz. I expect that to
be the same
       for JForum.

I am not sure that JForum is the only way to go and that is a worthy
discussion.
I would also add the suggestion that social networking tools that
support groups and discussion might be a more modern solution that
adds meets the same business need as forums but add ideas such as
"following", "liking", "rich profiling", etc.

Another way to provide this functionality would be to interface with
LinkedIn and use private and public groups.  Facebook might also be
a solution if your business is B2C rather than B2B.


If you want to implement implement functionality in either OFBiz or
JForum to update the LDAP data I suggest you have al look at  the
Apache Directory Server project (http://directory.apache.org). Not
only does the community have a (clusterable) Directory server and a
good LDAP management solution, but also api's that you can use for
integration.

Regards,


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*

Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


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