In an international setup I believe it is a requirement.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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Based Manufacturing, Professional
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Ron Wheeler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Industry_
> Classification_System
> is more modern and used in North America
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Industry_Classification_Standard was
> developed by one of our clients and seems to have international use.
>
> http://unstats.un.org/unsd/cr/registry/regcst.asp?Cl=27 is the United
> Nations version which might have a more broad appeal.
>
> I suppose that more than one set could be supported.
>
> On 04/03/2015 5:38 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> I found this wiki pages regarding industry classifications and sic codes
>>
>>     - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_classification
>>     - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Industrial_Classification
>>
>> Would you say that the sic codes (as per the second link) are correct?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Yes, the sic codes should be real.
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Ron Wheeler <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 24/01/2015 5:14 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  We have to take into consideration that the naming of parties and
>>>>> addresses shouldn't resemble real life to much. People might otherwise
>>>>> get
>>>>> the perception that it is real data.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am not sure what the risk is.
>>>> If they wander down to Main Street and don't see all these companies
>>>> lined up next to each other or call a bunch of 555 telephone numbers
>>>> they
>>>> will figure it out pretty quickly.
>>>>
>>>> The SIC codes should be real since that is a useful entity and is real
>>>> data
>>>> I would be less happy with dummy SIC codes since that just creates more
>>>> work for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Dummy data thath makes no sense, just makes it harder to understand how
>>>> the system works.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>   Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>> Pierre
>>>>>
>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>   Op 24 jan. 2015 om 02:53 heeft Ron Wheeler
>>>>> <rwheeler@artifact-software.
>>>>>
>>>>>> com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If my structure for Customers is correct, I will offer the test
>>>>>> customers in the spreadsheets and their associated data including
>>>>>> Classification as demo data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Party data is pretty sparse.
>>>>>> It should show every possible related entity so that it can be used
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> testing and documentation examples.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On 23/01/2015 3:36 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having checked the DemoData set, I noticed that we don't have demo
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> regarding PartyClassification and PartyClassifcationGroup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you be willing to create an improvement JIRA and add a patch
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> your example?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Ron Wheeler <
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Great answer!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When adding a customer (Party) it needs to have a Classification
>>>>>>>> associated with it to carry the SIC code of the Party.
>>>>>>>> My reverse engineering of the Party entities and the seed data led
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the following fragment that will load a CUSTOMER and the SIC
>>>>>>>> classification
>>>>>>>> of"13"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <Party partyId="FOUR SEASONS HOTEL" partyTypeId="CORPORATION"
>>>>>>>> preferredCurrencyUomId="USD" partyStatus="PARTY_ENABLED"
>>>>>>>> externalId="100012"/>
>>>>>>>> <PartyRole partyId="FOUR SEASONS HOTEL" roleTypeId="CUSTOMER"/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <PartyClassification partyId="FOUR SEASONS HOTEL"
>>>>>>>> partyClassificationTypeId="SIC_CODE" partyClassificationGroupId="
>>>>>>>> 13"/>
>>>>>>>> <PartyClassificationGroup partyClassificationTypeId="SIC_CODE"
>>>>>>>> GroupId="13" description="Miscellaneous"/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   From your description I will have no trouble loading another
>>>>>>>> CUSTOMER that
>>>>>>>> is also a hotel (SIC Code 13) again
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <Party partyId="HILTON" partyTypeId="CORPORATION"
>>>>>>>> preferredCurrencyUomId="USD" partyStatus="PARTY_ENABLED"
>>>>>>>> externalId="100012"/>
>>>>>>>> <PartyRole partyId="HILTON" roleTypeId="CUSTOMER"/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <PartyClassification partyId="HILTON" partyClassificationTypeId="
>>>>>>>> SIC_CODE"
>>>>>>>> partyClassificationGroupId="13"/>
>>>>>>>> <PartyClassificationGroup partyClassificationTypeId="SIC_CODE"
>>>>>>>> GroupId="13" description="Miscellaneous"/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The statement <PartyClassificationGroup partyClassificationTypeId="
>>>>>>>> SIC_CODE"
>>>>>>>> GroupId="13" description="Miscellaneous"/> will be processed many
>>>>>>>> times but
>>>>>>>> only result in a single PartyClassificationGroup entity with
>>>>>>>> SIC_CODE
>>>>>>>> 13
>>>>>>>> which is the desired result.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On 23/01/2015 11:37 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ron:
>>>>>>>>> In general - and please feel free to add to the Wiki: If the
>>>>>>>>> utilities
>>>>>>>>> that load seed data into the database encounter a record (to be
>>>>>>>>> loaded)
>>>>>>>>> where the primary-key(s) for this record already exist within a
>>>>>>>>> record in
>>>>>>>>> the database, only the non-primary-key data is loaded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specifically, you can never replace a primary-key(s) for an
>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>> record in the database. This is intentional and done to preserve
>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>> integrity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, if a record with the identical primary-key(s) do
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> exist (the entire combination of primary-key(s) is considered),
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>>> record is written to the database.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given that, what entity are you loading with SIC codes? You will
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>> need to determine which entity this is in order to answer your
>>>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>>>> from below: "what happens if the entity engine detects multiple
>>>>>>>>> requests to
>>>>>>>>> load the same classification id" ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>> http://www.aesolves.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On 1/23/15 11:13 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I notice that SIC Codes are listed as a "supported" classification
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the seed data.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ehso.com/siccodes.php
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are there any seed data files that load the actual SIC Codes.
>>>>>>>>>> In North America the old SIC is replaced by NAICS except for some
>>>>>>>>>> US
>>>>>>>>>> gov't departments and agencies related to financial regulation
>>>>>>>>>> http://www23.statcan.gc.ca/imdb/p3VD.pl?Function=getVD&TVD=118464
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Industrial_Classification
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> links to a number of other industry code systems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there a set of seed data floating about that could be added to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> seed data.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If not, what happens if the entity engine detects multiple
>>>>>>>>>> requests
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> load the same classification id ?
>>>>>>>>>> This would happen if the sic code classification was loaded with
>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>> customer or supplier in a bulk load operation of customers or
>>>>>>>>>> suppliers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>>>> President
>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>> President
>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: [email protected]
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
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