believe it or not i edited out the script file and replaced it simply with
this

#!/bin/bash
#shell script for ofbiz daemon
#ofbizd

cd /ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07 && ./ant start  &


and it loads fine... im going to put "cd /ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07 && ./ant start
 &" in the execstart function and get back after i do some other things
today

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Chris Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> well i would like to hammer out the correct classpath env variable before
> i do... as it sit i did  ls -Rl and parsed out all directories that had
> classes in them under the ofbiz home dir, and output that to a simple text
> file, did a little minor sed'ing to it to get it in the form that it could
> be directly read in via what i have posted, but i really think their is a
> better way to do the classpath definition and i would love some input...  i
> think this might be the key to my other recently started query
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So you got it running finally? If yes could you create a Jira with the
>> elements you used?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 14/04/2015 06:14, Chris Clark a écrit :
>>
>>> okay so i should change that to what the ofbiz home?  that env variable
>>> is
>>> kind of moot as i re define ot when i read in the directories from
>>> classpath.txt, which is too cumbersome to post here... the first
>>> definition
>>> needs to be removed
>>>
>>> chris
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Ron Wheeler <
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> export CLASSPATH=/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.75-2.5.4.2.fc20.i386
>>>> is not a classpath.
>>>>
>>>> Java wants to know where you have put your classes (jars or .classes
>>>> files) that your code needs.
>>>>
>>>> Without the right classpath you will get "java.lang.
>>>> ClassNotFoundException:
>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader" when your main program calls
>>>> "ContainerLoader" since Java has no idea where to look for that class.
>>>> It knows about the Java jre's code, it does not know where your code is
>>>> located.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13/04/2015 4:45 PM, Mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I don't think you want to specify the CLASSPATH.  This is calculated by
>>>>> java.  You also had some syntax errors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try:
>>>>>
>>>>> #!/bin/bash
>>>>> #shell script for ofbiz daemon
>>>>> #ofbizd
>>>>>
>>>>> export JAVA_HOME=/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.75-2.5.4.2.fc20.i386
>>>>> export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH
>>>>> export JAVA_BINARY=/usr/bin/java
>>>>> export JAVA=$JAVA_BINARY
>>>>> export OFBIZ_HOME=/ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07
>>>>> export OFBIZ_LOG=$OFBIZ_HOME/runtime/logs/console.log
>>>>> export OFBIZ_OUT=/tmp/OfbizOut
>>>>> export JAVA_VMOPTIONS="-Xms768M -Duser.language=en"
>>>>> export JAVA_ARGS="-jar ofbiz.jar"
>>>>>
>>>>> cd $OFBIZ_HOME && $JAVA_BINARY $JAVA_ARGS  $JAVA_VMOPTIONS >
>>>>> $OFBIZ_OUT 2>
>>>>> $OFBIZ_LOG &
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Chris Clark <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   ok so i did this, made a script file per Mike's suggestion
>>>>>
>>>>>> the script file is here
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> [root@localhost system]# cat /ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/ofbizd
>>>>>> #!/bin/bash
>>>>>> #shell script for ofbiz daemon
>>>>>> #ofbizd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> export
>>>>>> JAVA_HOME=/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.75-2.5.4.2.fc20.i386
>>>>>> export
>>>>>> CLASSPATH=/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.75-2.5.4.2.fc20.i386
>>>>>> export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH
>>>>>> export JAVA_BINARY=/usr/bin/java
>>>>>> export JAVA=$JAVA_BINARY
>>>>>> export OFBIZ_HOME=/ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07
>>>>>> export OFBIZ_LOG=$OFBIZ_HOME/runtime/logs/console.log
>>>>>> export OFBIZ_OUT=/tmp/OfbizOut
>>>>>> export JAVA_VMOPTIONS="-Xms768M -Duser.language=en"
>>>>>> export JAVA_ARGS="-jar ${OFBIZ_HOME}/ofbiz.jar"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cd $OFBIZ_HOME && $JAVA_BINARY $VMARGS $JAVA_ARGS >$OFBIZ_OUT
>>>>>> 2>>$OFBIZ_LOG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now i already showed my .service file.. i only change the Execstart to
>>>>>> point to the ofbizd, it still times out the same way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is what the console.log shows so you maybe right Ron with the
>>>>>> Class
>>>>>> pointer, so if you could help me point it to the classes i would
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" org.ofbiz.base.start.StartupException:
>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader
>>>>>>           at
>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.initStartLoaders(Start.java:276)
>>>>>>           at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.init(Start.java:241)
>>>>>>           at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:127)
>>>>>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader
>>>>>>           at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:366)
>>>>>>           at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:355)
>>>>>>           at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
>>>>>> Method)
>>>>>>           at
>>>>>> java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:354)
>>>>>>           at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:425)
>>>>>>           at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:358)
>>>>>>           at
>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.initStartLoaders(Start.java:271)
>>>>>>           ... 2 more
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ron Wheeler <
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> You might check "journalctl -n 50" to see if there is more info in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> journal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks like it is having trouble starting up.
>>>>>>> I would set JAVA_HOME since it is highly unlikely that anyone would
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> set it to
>>>>>>> "/ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07java" which appears to be where you are expecting
>>>>>>> java
>>>>>>> to be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The init script should give a hint about the need for a -cp in the
>>>>>>> java
>>>>>>> command.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/04/2015 2:03 PM, Chris Clark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   posted the output of systemctl in a previous email any help as to
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> direct the class path in the java executable...  like i said this
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> whole "nother language"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Mike <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    You need to create a REAL script that fires up ofbiz, setting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  JAVA_HOME,
>>>>>>> etc,  Then change the above "ExecStart" to that script.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Chris Clark <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    so this is where i am at...  i created a sym link inside the
>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  directory to the java executable thereby having the process ran
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ofbiz home directory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this i what my ofbiz.service file looks like... and yes they seem to
>>>>>>>>>> usually be this simple, but can be as complicated as you want
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   cat /lib/systemd/system/ofbiz.service
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [Unit]
>>>>>>>>>> Description=OfBIZ Daemon
>>>>>>>>>> After=network.target
>>>>>>>>>> [Service]
>>>>>>>>>> Type=forking
>>>>>>>>>> ExecStart=/ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/java -Xms768M -jar
>>>>>>>>>> /ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/ofbiz.jar
>>>>>>>>>> [Install]
>>>>>>>>>> WantedBy=multi-user.target
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   yes i have tried just putting /ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/ant start it
>>>>>>>>> drops
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   where is the build.xml error
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the above .service file hangs and timesout resulting in this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   [root@localhost ~]# systemctl start ofbiz.service
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Job for ofbiz.service failed. See 'systemctl status ofbiz.service'
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> 'journalctl -xn' for details.
>>>>>>>>>> [root@localhost ~]# systemctl status ofbiz.service -l
>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.service - OfBIZ Daemon
>>>>>>>>>>       Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/ofbiz.service;
>>>>>>>>>> disabled)
>>>>>>>>>>       Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2015-04-13
>>>>>>>>>> 12:46:14
>>>>>>>>>> EDT;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   4s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   ago
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      Process: 1247 ExecStart=/ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/java -Xms768M -jar
>>>>>>>>>> /ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/ofbiz.jar (code=exited, status=143)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:44:44 localhost.localdomain java[1247]: at
>>>>>>>>>> java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:44:44 localhost.localdomain java[1247]: at
>>>>>>>>>> java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:354)
>>>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:44:44 localhost.localdomain java[1247]: at
>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:425)
>>>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:44:44 localhost.localdomain java[1247]: at
>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:358)
>>>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:44:44 localhost.localdomain java[1247]: at
>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.initStartLoaders(Start.java:271)
>>>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:44:44 localhost.localdomain java[1247]: ... 2 more
>>>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:46:11 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: ofbiz.service
>>>>>>>>>> operation
>>>>>>>>>> timed out. Terminating.
>>>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:46:14 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: ofbiz.service:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  control
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> process exited, code=exited status=143
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:46:14 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Failed to start
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  OfBIZ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daemon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apr 13 12:46:14 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Unit ofbiz.service
>>>>>>>>>> entered failed state.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   just a little update... im putting this down for till after lunch
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   sometime
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Chris Clark <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    ahhh i was forgetting the -jar ofbiz.jar in the command line
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> execution
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> through the above mentioned command...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i will post results
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Chris Clark <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this is part and parcel of why systemd is now the standard... you
>>>>>>>>>> dont
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  have to define things like that in systemd services... because
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   services
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> are executed with full access to system things like environment
>>>>>>>>>>> variables...
>>>>>>>>>>> i mean i can try to cut and copy all the enviornment variables
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  rc.d or init.d script but im telling you they are not
>>>>>>>>>> necessary...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  can i not just run the ofbiz from commandline execution of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> java -Xms768M -Xmx1024M -Duser.language=en > /ofbiz/log/messages
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2>>/ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/runtime/logs/console.log
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if that is the case then those environment variables are already
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   defined
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in the system and dont need to be defined again
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  chris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Have you defined JAVA_HOME to match where Java is found?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ron
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/04/2015 11:04 AM, Chris Clark wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    maybe you can help me... the new architecture requires an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> path
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the executable which is fine, but the java command
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/java -Xms768M -Xmx1024M -Duser.language=en >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ofbiz/log/messages 2>>/ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/runtime/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logs/console.log
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wont work because the absolute path to java
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is /usr/bin/java or for me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truly /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.75-2.5.4.2.fc20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i386/bin/java
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so what do i have to add to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.75-2.5.4.2.fc20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i386/bin/java
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -Xms768M -Xmx1024M -Duser.language=en > /ofbiz/log/messages
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2>>/ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07/runtime/logs/console.log
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have it run in the ofbiz directory of /ofbiz/ofbiz.13.07
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java is like a third world language to me right now... im
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of months it will be like the back of my hand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Chris Clark <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     right but rc.d files are extinct everything uses what is
>>>>>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>>>>>> systemd to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot up services as daemons now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tecmint.com/systemd-replaces-init-in-linux/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is another "architecture" for the daemonization
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> rely on bash scripts with all kinds of various thing defined but
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relies on things that are called .service files that reside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /lib/systemd/system dir and control the daemonization
>>>>>>> process...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a red
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hat man and this is the method they use, soon to be, if not
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> exclusively... Im sure out of the many many many people on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone has made the switch, and I will go look in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> install dir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> .service file...  If i happen to get it, either from someone or
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> manufacture
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, can i upstream it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I guess you are referring to this page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look for rc.* files in your working copy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 13/04/2015 12:29, Chris Clark a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     does anyone have one of these... the wiki has a very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   dated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> init.d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> script and im trying to make my own but im having issues
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ron Wheeler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>> President
>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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