Nothing to specific.  I just realized that I had always been steered away from 
using Derby without any solid evidence or reasoning to back it up.  So I 
thought I would ask the question.  
As far as specific problems, I have had a few, but they were not at a point 
that made them particularly worth troubleshooting.  I do remember having some 
problems using MS SQL Server so I struck that off the list.  I have been  
planning on using Postgres as I read that it is likely the most compatible and 
what OFBiz was developed on, but then one of the Dev instances I have been 
playing with suddenly developed problems writing records.  Again I have not 
taken the time to troubleshoot, because I am still at a stage where it is 
easier just to spin up a whole new instance and get back to work :)
I am starting to plan a production system, so I thought I would ask the 
question before committing to a standalone database.
thanksDamon

> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 01:16:20 +0300
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Using Derby in Production?
> 
> Hi Damon and everyone, 
> 
> Is there a specific reason why you want Derby in production? Do you 
> specifically need the "embedded" part? And what is it that is problematic for 
> you with stand alone databases? Is it setup, administration, backup or what? 
> 
> I think we can help you better if we understand your exact problem so 
> answering the above would give us a clearer picture. 
> 
> Cheers! 
> 
> Taher Alkhateeb 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Ron Wheeler" <[email protected]> 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2015 12:04:08 AM 
> Subject: Re: Using Derby in Production? 
> 
> Derby is used in production. 
> 
> http://osdir.com/ml/derby-user-db-apache/2014-01/msg00053.html 
> http://www.carehart.org/resourcelists/derby_for_cfers/#notdevonly 
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/Us2005OnlineSessionSlides?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ApacheCon05usDerbyPerformance.pdf
>  
> 10 year old comparison of Derby and MySQL 
> http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UsesOfDerby from the Derby wiki 
> 
> Testing under your forecasted production transaction load might give you 
> a better sense of which database system will give you adequate performance. 
> 
> Ron 
> 
> 
> On 09/07/2015 12:09 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: 
> > Damon, 
> > 
> > We advice against the use of Apache Derby as the underlying RDBMS for 
> > production environments. However, you can read up on how the developers of 
> > that product think about how to use it at http://db.apache.org/derby/ . 
> > 
> > Best regards, 
> > 
> > Pierre Smits 
> > 
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> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:47 PM, damon henry <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> >> Is there any rule of thumb or general wisdom about using the Derby 
> >> database engine in a production deployment? In previous enterprise systems 
> >> I have integrated, I have often used Derby during development, but then 
> >> migrated to a standalone database system before putting things in 
> >> production. I am working on my first OFBiz implementation and assumed I 
> >> would be going that route on this project as well, so tried a few 
> >> different 
> >> standalone databases (mysql, postgres, MS SQL Server) with OFBiz, but to 
> >> be 
> >> honest I am not seeing any clear advantage, and have in fact run into a 
> >> few 
> >> issues with the stand alone databases. I also work for a much smaller 
> >> company now than I have in the past. This is not going to be a large 
> >> implementation, meaning it is not likely to host lots of simultaneous 
> >> connections, but once it gets put in place it may be in place for years 
> >> and 
> >> accumulate lots of data over the lifetime. Is Derby up to the task? Has 
> >> anyone used Derby over a long period of time and found it to perform well. 
> >> thanksDamon Henry 
> 
> 
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