Hi Gerald,

Please see my response inline.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 7:01 PM, G.W. Haywood <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> First post to this list.  I'd like to contribute to the project.  When
> I have things clear in my mind (if I ever get that far) I propose to
> write some user documentation.  As you all know, it's badly needed.
>
> I'm using OfBiz 13.07.02 and the Derby
> database at present but I plan to migrate to MySQL or PostgreSQL when
> I've got to grips with the basics.
>
> There are tens of thousands of products to import, a minimum of 40,000
> up to a maximum of about 200,000 from over a thousand manufacturers if
> OfBiz will cope with it - that's one of the things I want to find out.
> On a 2.5GHz dual Opteron with 16GByte ECC RAM running over the local
> Ethernet I'm afraid it looks rather slow at the moment.  Usually it
> will take several seconds to render a page and sometimes it will take
> of the order of ten seconds.
>
> Immediate problem:
>
> I've spent almost two weeks reading the revised volume 1 of the Data
> Model Resource Book and about how to import products from data files,
> and I'm not a lot clearer about it now than I was when I started out.
> Most of the time I seem to be going around in circles reading the same
> incomplete, out of date, inconsistent and confusing notes which very
> often contain links to pages or even Websites which no longer exist.
>
> Following this document:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide
>
> I have set up a new Catalog - or at least I think I have.  But that's
> as far as I've been able to go following the text.  In particular, the
> section entitled "Category Setup" is a masterpiece of confusion.  The
> concepts of the relationships of a Category to a Product, to a Catalog
> and to each other are not clear to me.  The section "Category Setup"
> suggests that one should give descriptions to the Categories, but as I
> have no clear idea yet what they're for, I'm able to describe them
> only as "A Sort Of Category".  To a novice like me, the administration
> interface offers no help, and to the extent that it's possible is even
> more confusing than the Business Setup Guide.
>
> My main concern is if I get it wrong at this stage, but ultimately do
> manage to import a couple of hundred thousand products, that I'll just
> have to do it all over again after fixing my Categories.
>
> Questions:
>
> Please would someone explain to me in simple English what a Category
> is for, why I need to create four or more of them, what I need to do
> with them after I create them, and exactly how that should be done?
>
> A category is intended to provide a grouping mechanism for defined
products and/or services. A product can belong to many categories.




> What is a Browse Root Category (and why is it called that)?
>

The Browse Root Category is a category that functions as a parent to child
categories. In a catalog it is the first category to browse from.


>
> Why should I want one?
>

Without the Browse Root Category the child categories are not shown in the
the category list.




> Why does one Category have to be a child of another?  What is the
> significance of this parentage?
>

It is not required. It is a feature to differentiate products.



>
> Why is the child of the Browse Root Category described as a "top-level
> browse Category" when (since it's a child of the Browse Root Category)
> it seems it's not at the top level?


That is part of the documentation of
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide
.That
is to build perception and understanding. It might be so that it needs a
revision.


> What is the name of this child?
>

The name you give it. You can augment the name when you access the category.



> Others seem to have names, but not that one.
>
> Are the Promotions, "All Products" Category, Default Search, Purchase
> Allow and View Allow categories children of the Browse Root Category
> as well or are they children of the apparently unnamed and mis-described
> top-level browse Category?  And are there really only two of them there:
> Promotions and "All Products"?


The Default Search, Promotions, Best Selling ( in fact all with show
'(one)" in the selection field can be regarded as master categories.



>   If so, why are they seemingly pressed
> into service for other purposes, and does that not run counter to the
> data model ethos?
>
> Of course I already have categories in the existing product data, and
> they don't map well to those suggested in "Category Setup", as they're
> more in the nature of sections and sub-sections in a paper catalogue.
> I don't know if the concept of an OfBiz Category resembles my concept
> of a category - note that I've used a small 'c' in my own categories
> for that reason.  To begin with, can I simply not have any Categories
> at all, and then add my own categories after importing the products?
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Ged.
>

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