I'm glad this conversation is openly being discussed. I'm glad there's a
dedicated group of Java pros associated with the project and not just
the author.

Confession: I'm still afraid of the monster and don't feel comfortable
if a customer was screaming at me the system is down and asking what is
wrong?

I hope through this list my comfort level will improve.


On Wed, 2016-04-13 at 13:37 -0700, Skip wrote:
> I have servers running a month or more without restart and then usually 
> because of a change in java code.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anon [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Ofbiz Development
> 
> 
> Wow... Interesting and refreshing. I had the feeling, I would have had 
> to restart after every single change.
> Thanks a lot Pierre for the clarification. I like that.
> 
> I will also take a look at Bigfish.
> 
> 
> Regards.
> On 04/13/2016 09:39 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> > Hi anon <[email protected]>.
> >
> > Jumpstarting development is easy:
> >
> >     1.  Use the ./ant create-component task to create a complete skeleton of
> >     a hot-deployment component. And after an ./ant build start you are 
> > ready to
> >     use the skeleton. Just make sure that you load the component's 
> > permissions
> >     after the startup (in webtools)
> >     2. You can create widgets (screens, forms) without it requiring a 
> > restart
> >     3. You can can create freemarker templates and groovy scripts without it
> >     requiring a restart
> >     4. You can create request-map and view-map URI's without it requiring a
> >     restart
> >
> > The elements of a component requiring a restart is services and Java code
> > (as it needs to be compiled. Adding new labels to the Label.xml files of
> > the component doesn't require a restart, but the cache needs to be flushed
> > to see the effects (again this is done in the webtools component).
> >
> > I trust the above will help you jumpstart your development.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Nick Rosser <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> You could check-out BigFish -- an open-source eCommerce framework that
> >> complements OFBiz. Bigfish.solveda.com.
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: anon [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 3:12 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Ofbiz Development
> >>
> >> Hello List,
> >> I have been looking at the tutorials on youtube of the ofbiz framework and
> >> I was wondering what the development experience look like. I noticed in the
> >> vid that the server has to be restarted frequently and that the startup
> >> time can take more that 5 min. Is that really what is going on?
> >> After seeing that, I tried the moqui framework, because I am looking for a
> >> fully loaded opensource ecommerce framework. Sadly, moqui uses gradle and I
> >> do not have a good experience with gradle. It is just too slow for my
> >> taste. Is there any trick that you guys use to speed up thae ofbiz startup
> >> time or do you guys just live with it? I left Javaland years ago because of
> >> that issue...
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> 
> 


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