Thanks, I'll check it out! On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 9:30 AM Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HI Emad, > > I had to dig a bit to get to the nitty-gritty of this. > > So you accessed: > Organization GL Settings ( > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/PartyAccountsSummary), > and > on the page shown you clicked the 'Accounting' trigger, and on the > 'Accounts Summary' page you clicked > the 'Create Payment Accounting Transaction' trigger > > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/CreateAcctgTransAndEntries?acctgTransTypeId=PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS&creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY&organizationPartyId=Company&debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT > which generated the 'Quick Create an Accounting Transaction' page, showing > the Acctg Trans Type 'Payment? > > The thing is that while the 'Create Sales Accounting Transaction is more > explaining in both description 'Sales' and parameters, the 'Create Payment > Accounting Transaction isn't. > It does not differentiate what kind of payment (e.g. Incoming, Outgoing, > Payroll, etc. Nor do the parameters in the uri help. The acctgTransTypeId= > <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/CreateAcctgTransAndEntries?acctgTransTypeId=PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS&creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY&organizationPartyId=Company&debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT> > PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS > <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/CreateAcctgTransAndEntries?acctgTransTypeId=PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS&creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY&organizationPartyId=Company&debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT> > is > used as a parentTypeId for: > <AcctgTransType acctgTransTypeId="DISBURSEMENT" description="Disbursement" > hasTable="N" parentTypeId="PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS"/> > <AcctgTransType acctgTransTypeId="RECEIPT" description="Receipt" hasTable= > "N" parentTypeId="PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS"/> > > and the other two parameters &creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY > <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/CreateAcctgTransAndEntries?acctgTransTypeId=PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS&creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY&organizationPartyId=Company&debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT> > and &debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT > <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/CreateAcctgTransAndEntries?acctgTransTypeId=PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS&creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY&organizationPartyId=Company&debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT> > indicate > that the following was intended: > <AcctgTransType acctgTransTypeId="RECEIPT" description="Receipt" hasTable= > "N" parentTypeId="PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS"/> > > So, in this case, the uri could also have been: > > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/CreateAcctgTransAndEntries?acctgTransTypeId=RECEIPT&creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY&organizationPartyId=Company&debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT > <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/CreateAcctgTransAndEntries?acctgTransTypeId=PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS&creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY&organizationPartyId=Company&debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT> > to get an incoming payment into the system. > > I suggest you test-drive the 'Create Payment' function in the > MainActionMenu of accounting on demo-trunk, to generate both incoming and > outgoing payment variants to see what the GL transactions are for each., > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Pierre > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:48 PM Emad Radwan <eradwan1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello Pierre, >> >> Thanks for your contribution. Trying to get more understanding on how the >> enhanced version in Payment and Sales transaction works I found that. it >> utilizes the 'GlAccountClassId' for filtering the accounts in relation with >> the transaction type as per the following DOM snippet. Do you know how to >> use the same for other transaction types? e.g. if the transaction type is >> 'Receipt', what GlAccountClassId classes to use to filter debit and credit >> accounts? >> >> <a class="buttontext" >> href="/accounting/control/CreateAcctgTransAndEntries?acctgTransTypeId=PAYMENT_ACCTG_TRANS&creditGlAccountClassId=CURRENT_LIABILITY&organizationPartyId=Company&debitGlAccountClassId=CASH_EQUIVALENT"> >> Create Payment Accounting Transaction </a> >> >> Regards, >> Emad >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 9:27 PM Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> HI Emad, >>> Thank you for reaching out. >>> >>> I have put some feedback inline. >>> >>> Met vriendelijke groet, >>> >>> Pierre >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 5:26 PM Emad Radwan <eradwan1...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Community, >>>> >>>> Ofbiz provides many ways to create transactions manually. Under >>>> accounting >>>> summary, there are two links to 'Create Sales Accounting Transaction' >>>> and >>>> 'Create Payment Accounting Transaction' where the following screens come >>>> populated with meaningful - valid - options in both Dropdowns for Debit >>>> Gl >>>> account Id and Credit Gl account id. This is good as it prevents the >>>> user >>>> from entering wrong / unrelated account Ids based on the transaction >>>> type. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks. It good to see that OFBiz Accounting is being used. >>> >>> >>>> On the other hand, the other forms for creating transactions don't >>>> provide >>>> such filtering of the accounts allowing the user to select any value in >>>> the >>>> three dropdowns - transaction type, debit and credit -. >>> >>> >>> My question is why? >>>> Are there cases - accounting-wise - that requires this kind of >>>> flexibility >>>> and depend on the user to select the right account while opening the >>>> door >>>> for entering nonrelated data? e.g. what would it mean to select Accounts >>>> Receivable in the two entries of the transaction? >>>> >>> >>> I can only think of the situation that the original development was done >>> a bit hastily to just have the functionality in, catering to all use-cases. >>> And after that a different contributor added the functionality under the >>> Accounting Summary and did the additional stuff to have a good >>> differentiation between the two functions for Sales Accounting Transaction >>> and Payment Transaction. >>> >>> As you may have noticed in demo-trunk, I contributed the MainActionMenu ( >>> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/main) that has >>> the functionality to trigger the create of a Accounting Transaction. >>> >>> If you feel that form could do with a bit of improvement, please create >>> a new ticket in our JIRA and I will work it into my list of priorities to >>> do. >>> >>> Thanks, and best regards, >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Emad >>>> >>>
