Hello Pierre,

Would you please create a production run on the demo system where I can see
the calendar for a fixed asset? This will be of a great help as I can
examine the data model from web tools.

Regards,
Emad

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 12:35 PM Emad Radwan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for your explanation.
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 8:53 PM Pierre Smits <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Emad,
>>
>>
>> I looked at
>> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/manufacturing/control/FindProductionRun
>> but found no production run created.
>>
>> Then I took a look at
>> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/webtools/control/entity/find/WorkEffort/10000
>> and found it. I trust it is yours. Or did you create the production run in
>> another demo site (stable or latest)?
>>
>> Anyway,
>> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/webtools/control/entity/find/WorkEffort/10000
>> is not a production run, but rather a schema definition for production runs
>> to use. As you can see, no fixedAssetId has been set on the record. Which
>> should be obvious, as assets are to be associated with schema tasks and/or
>> production run tasks.
>>
>> I trust the above helps.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Met vriendelijke groet,
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 1:49 PM Emad Radwan <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Pierre,
>>>
>>> Please have a look at the online demo where I just created a production
>>> run - # 10000 - that uses the 'PROD_MANUF' product and 'ROUTING_COST'
>>> workeffort. I know that fixed asset 'WORKCENTER_COST' is involved, but when
>>> I navigate to Fixed Assets-> Calendar as you mentioned I don't see the
>>> created workefforts listed for today whatever the status of the production
>>> run is. What am I doing wrong here?
>>>
>>> As for your explanation about the other resources collide, I think it
>>> makes very much sense. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Emad
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 12:21 PM Pierre Smits <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Emad,
>>>>
>>>> My apologies for this late reaction. I waited whether another community
>>>> member would respond.
>>>>
>>>> IMO, you wouldn't need a calendar definition for each individual asset.
>>>> As you can see in the Asset Management plugin when you access an
>>>> asset.  it has the tab calendar showing the work efforts related to that
>>>> asset. What is missing in that plugin is a means to get to a calendar for
>>>> all assets related work effort purpose types (WEPT_MAINTENANCE,
>>>> WEPT_PRODUCTION_RUN, etc.)
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, in the Manufacturing plugin what you see missing is a easy
>>>> means to a calendar showing running and future production runs and their
>>>> tasks.
>>>>
>>>> As your second question, a implementing to stop creating a production
>>>> run when a resource (person or equipment) is associated with a task in
>>>> progress (and thus a production run in progress) is a wrong approach.
>>>> Creating the project run is a planning activity. One of the tasks of a
>>>> Production Manager is to ensure the optimized utilization of limited
>>>> resources (persons AND equipment). And take decisions when future
>>>> production run tasks collide with others vis-a-vis the resources required.
>>>>
>>>> In OFBiz Manufacturing, the Production Manager can adjust (estimated)
>>>> start and stop times of future (non-started) task to prevent such
>>>> collisions, The Production Manager can also change resources on those 
>>>> tasks.
>>>>
>>>> I trust the above helps. If you have further questions and/or remarks
>>>> regarding this, please do not hesitate.
>>>> Met vriendelijke groet,
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>> *Proud* *contributor** of* Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org/> since
>>>> 2008 (without privileges and banned)
>>>> Proud contributor to the ASF since 2006
>>>> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
>>>>
>>>> Anyone could have been you, whereas I've always been anyone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 8:15 AM Emad Radwan <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Community,
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me be more specific regarding the below:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1- Each fixed asset should have its own calendar; correct?
>>>>> 2- Is there a mechanism currently to stop creating a production run
>>>>> that
>>>>> uses fixed assets that are in another 'running' production run?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Emad
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: Emad Radwan <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 6:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: WorkEffort, Fixed Asset and Calenndar
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Community,
>>>>> I'm trying to understand the relationship between the above artifacts,
>>>>> and
>>>>> my question is, do we have calendar events for a fixed Asset when it's
>>>>> used
>>>>> in a manufacturing workeffort?
>>>>>
>>>>> To add more context, TechDataCalendar and related table data are used
>>>>> when
>>>>> calculating the endDate for a Routing Task but I see the code only
>>>>> reading
>>>>> from those tables but where is the persistence is taking place.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ultimate desired behavior is to be able - when navigating from
>>>>> Accounting->Fixed Assets->Calendar - is to see the work happening on
>>>>> the
>>>>> fixed asset - the actual workeffforts - visible in the calendar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that possible?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Emad
>>>>>
>>>>

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