get it :) you are right it is offtopic
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> What page are you refering to? >> every OM user can set its own language in the profile .... >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look! >>> >>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers >>> me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O) >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here >>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ >>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem >>>> >>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile flash >>>> to achieve this >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it >>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the >>>>> 3 >>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html . >>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in line >>>>> with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user, where >>>>> they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I don't >>>>> need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for me as >>>>> the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm supposed >>>>> to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is >>>>> customizable? >>>>> How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an intuitive overview. >>>>> >>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in >>>>> the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you >>>>> have any binaries for 2.1? >>>>> >>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings hard: >>>>> Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam view in >>>>> the setup. >>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro", >>>>> just have it default to the first option in the list the first time you >>>>> start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240. >>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant >>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here >>>>> are a number of directed questions: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than >>>>> what's sprinkled across the unstructured >>>>> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and >>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/> >>>>> ? >>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video >>>>> feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height >>>>> of >>>>> the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is >>>>> this >>>>> possible at all without recompiling the source? >>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when making >>>>> an account? >>>>> >>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course, but >>>>> we'll get to them later. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Marius >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes. Very good! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> default.landing.zone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> George, >>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and >>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard. >>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The >>>>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I >>>>>>>> do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this >>>>>>>> routine. >>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some >>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, >>>>>>>> in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the >>>>>>>> default presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two >>>>>>>> points are already solved with the "remember me" and now with >>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard. >>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux >>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in >>>>>>>> the OM GUI. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jaime,**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for >>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface. >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s >>>>>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the >>>>>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set >>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to >>>>>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is >>>>>>>>> select >>>>>>>>> the correct room to enter.**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the >>>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the >>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly >>>>>>>>> into the >>>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which >>>>>>>>> Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version >>>>>>>>> 2.1 >>>>>>>>> running at the moment on which I could check.**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty >>>>>>>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I >>>>>>>>> don’t >>>>>>>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues. >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> George Kirkham**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stephen, >>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the >>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current >>>>>>>>> interface >>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk. >>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <[email protected]>**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying >>>>>>>>> its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> the general GUI?**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01 >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a >>>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps. >>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly >>>>>>>>> why escapes the interface itself.**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <[email protected]>**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If so go here: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i >>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - >>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf - >>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest >>>>>>>>> H264 >>>>>>>>> compile steps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham >>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group >>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St >>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia >>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS) >>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK) >>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS) >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK) >>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain >>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. 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None of the sender or >>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage >>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules***** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> www.codetwo.com**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49 >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this: >>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), >>>>>>>>> and get >>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video >>>>>>>>> rooms. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting >>>>>>>>> started. >>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can >>>>>>>>> someone**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be >>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> much appreciated :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Marius**** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WBR >>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> WBR >> Maxim aka solomax >> > > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
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