Heh yeah, sorry about that :)

Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned off, and
upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.

Here's the next set of questions:

1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the "idea"
of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then invite
people?

2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious? How do
I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set in
red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)

Exception in thread
"org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
[WARN] [NioProc

essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception caught
PermGen space

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac

tion userservice.refreshSession


Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space

Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen
space

Cheers,
Marius


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>wrote:

> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> What page are you refering to?
>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>
>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers
>>>> me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>
>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile
>>>>> flash to achieve this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following 
>>>>>> the 3
>>>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in
>>>>>> line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in
>>>>>> the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you
>>>>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings
>>>>>> hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam
>>>>>> view in the setup.
>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro",
>>>>>> just have it default to the first option in the list the first time you
>>>>>> start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here
>>>>>> are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>>>>>    what's sprinkled across the unstructured 
>>>>>> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>    the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>    ?
>>>>>>    2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video
>>>>>>    feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the 
>>>>>> height of
>>>>>>    the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>    possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>    3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>>    making an account?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course,
>>>>>> but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and
>>>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>>>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>> But I do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this
>>>>>>>>> routine.
>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and
>>>>>>>>> also the default presentation in the first half of the dashboard. 
>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>> two points are already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in
>>>>>>>>> the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for
>>>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>>>>>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>>>>>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab.  This was created so we could set 
>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to
>>>>>>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab  and then all the user has to do is 
>>>>>>>>>> select
>>>>>>>>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when 
>>>>>>>>>> the user
>>>>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly 
>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for
>>>>>>>>>> which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I  do not have a 
>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone 
>>>>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have 
>>>>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current 
>>>>>>>>>> interface
>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think 
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and 
>>>>>>>>>> talk.
>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.***
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <[email protected]>****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with 
>>>>>>>>>> using flash
>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it 
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly
>>>>>>>>>> why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <[email protected]>****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed),
>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>>>>>>> rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but
>>>>>>>>>> it****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
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