The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
Only Admin can create public rooms

try to run with red5-highperf as first step


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <[email protected]> wrote:

> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>
> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned off,
> and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>
> Here's the next set of questions:
>
> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the
> "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then
> invite people?
>
> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious? How do
> I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set in
> red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>
> Exception in thread
> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
> [WARN] [NioProc
>
> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception caught
> PermGen space
>
> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>
> tion userservice.refreshSession
>
>
> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>
> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen
> space
>
> Cheers,
> Marius
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>
>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers
>>>>> me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile
>>>>>> flash to achieve this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>>>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following 
>>>>>>> the 3
>>>>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in
>>>>>>> line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step
>>>>>>> in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings
>>>>>>> hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam
>>>>>>> view in the setup.
>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro",
>>>>>>> just have it default to the first option in the list the first time you
>>>>>>> start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not
>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here
>>>>>>> are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>>>>>>    what's sprinkled across the unstructured 
>>>>>>> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>    the configuration tab on the 
>>>>>>> homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>    ?
>>>>>>>    2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video
>>>>>>>    feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the 
>>>>>>> height of
>>>>>>>    the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>    possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>    3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>>>    making an account?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course,
>>>>>>> but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and
>>>>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>>>>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>> But I do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this
>>>>>>>>>> routine.
>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and
>>>>>>>>>> also the default presentation in the first half of the dashboard. 
>>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>>> two points are already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for
>>>>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, 
>>>>>>>>>>> which can
>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms 
>>>>>>>>>>> tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab.  This was created so we could 
>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab  and then all the 
>>>>>>>>>>> user has
>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when 
>>>>>>>>>>> the user
>>>>>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly 
>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for
>>>>>>>>>>> which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I  do not have a 
>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone 
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still 
>>>>>>>>>>> have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current 
>>>>>>>>>>> interface
>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think 
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and 
>>>>>>>>>>> talk.
>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.**
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <[email protected]>***
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with 
>>>>>>>>>>> using flash
>>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As 
>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <[email protected]>***
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed),
>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>>>>>>>> rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but
>>>>>>>>>>> it****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be
>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
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