Is it safe for me to delete the sub-folders in the streams directory?

On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Lee Saunders
<leesenglishless...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thank you for the technical information.
> I'm just going my my experience using another system in which each meeting
> was tied only to the originator and could remain open over any number of
> sessions, and then closed when complete. Once complete a PDF of the
> whiteboard and accompanying documentation was created as a soft copy for
> download, stored in the users account. So, even though the meeting had been
> closed, a downloadable representation of the meeting was available in an
> archive. I do see how Open Minutes works differently, though.
>
> All in all, Open Meetings is a great service. Thank you for creating it.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:27 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We actually never physically delete anything, we just mark/flag as
>> deleted and don't show it in the UI anymore.
>>
>> There are multiple reasons why you do that in software. For instance
>> there are are often foreign key constraints. That means that you can't
>> physically delete an user, cause this userId is a foreign key in some other
>> tables. And by deleting the user physically you would get an inconsistance
>> data model.
>> This will become a real issue when you work with databases that have
>> "real" foreign keys (postgres, oracle, MySQL InnoDB, et cetera). However
>> even with data on disk in files, just because you "can" delete those files
>> without throwing any error does not mean that this is a good idea, as for
>> example records in the database still point to that file. By doing that the
>> data model simply becomes inconsistent. Some references are missing, it
>> pretty much gets a mess if you start to delete files.
>>
>> Another reason is that you want to keep track on changes that have
>> happened. This is sometimes a legal requirement in companies and
>> government. You just never delete hard, data must be always possible to be
>> restored. For instance an user xyz claims his important file XXX was
>> deleted at the 28.12.2009, now the sys admins need to recover that file.
>>
>> There are however attempts to have some kind of clean up tasks that
>> delete such references to free up disk space. But if ever implemented it
>> has to be done very carefully and clear to the sys admin that there is no
>> way back, you will loose data and you probably should back up the data
>> before doing it.
>>
>> Bottom line is: Don't delete, just flag as deleted.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/8/25 Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Ah, I see. I guess that does make sense. I just worry about having a
>>> list of rooms that becomes too long to manage.
>>> Perhaps then, completed meetings could go into an archive\ completed
>>> events section, thus keeping them separate from pending events.
>>>
>>> I have also noticed that deleted recordings remain in the streams folder
>>> (..\webapps\openmeetings\streams\). Why don't they get deleted when moved
>>> to trash?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Lee.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:49 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lee,
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we should delete the room after a calendar event was
>>>> terminated. Otherwise for example any uploaded or created data that was
>>>> part of the conference room itself would be gone.
>>>> Also you can attach existing rooms to multiple calendar events. So the
>>>> relationship between room to calendar event is not 1:1.
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/8/25 Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tested the calendar, but after the event had ended, the room
>>>>> persisted.
>>>>> Is there a way to terminate the event when the 'Exit' button is
>>>>> clicked rather than delete the  event in the calendar and receive a
>>>>> 'Cancelled' message?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that if an event is terminated before the start or end time,
>>>>> then yes, it is cancelled, but after the end time, a meeting has usually
>>>>> ended.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wag...@gmail.com
>>
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