Alvaro,

Are you the author of that guide?

There were some things that differed for me than you in the guide that I
thought I'd mention. I think it's because I used a different ISO to
install CentOS 7 -- I didn't use the livecd as mentioned in your guide,
but instead used the CentOS 7 DVD ISO.

I had to install some additional rpms to make things function:
Liboffice was not installed by default (Actually, I don't think any gui
software was -- including Gnome Desktop).

yum -y install libreoffice
As I just found out, this is required too:
yum -y install libreoffice-headless

I needed to install a dependent library to get ffmpeg to compile:
yum -y install libvpx libvpx-devel

Finally, OM complained about missing tomcat native libraries:
yum -y install tomcat-native

I'm also not certain if this was necessary, since most everything was
working by the time I ran this (except for some document conversion
issues that were part of this thread), but I did this so that I could
run LibreOffice and see if it was functioning correctly (it was):
yum groupinstall "Gnome Desktop"

It was probably not necessary, but I thought I'd throw that out there in
case some new person attempts to follow your guide and runs into issue
-- maybe they'll find this post and give it a try.

-Ian

On 12/5/2014 2:00 AM, Alvaro wrote:
> ...Maxim, Ian,
>
> I followed the same guide and it works fine for me.
>
> Please try this:
>
> chmod -R 777 /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4
>
> Centos 7 is comming a little strange...
>
>
> ..........................
>
>
>
> El vie, 05-12-2014 a las 00:19 -0800, Ian escribió:
>> More details about my system and this setup if it helps:
>>
>> Fresh copy of CentOS 7 86_x64
>>
>> /bin/java -version shows:
>>
>> java version "1.7.0_71"
>> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_71-b14)
>> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.71-b01, mixed mode)
>>
>> I followed guide #17 to set up OM:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for
>> +installing+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>> (Direct link:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27838216/Installation%20OpenMeetings%203.x%20on%20Centos%207.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1413183177000&api=v2)
>>
>> I replaced firewalld with iptables.
>>
>> iptables rules:
>> -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
>> -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT
>> -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
>> -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 8088 -j ACCEPT
>> -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 1935 -j ACCEPT
>> -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 5080 -j ACCEPT
>> -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
>> -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited
>> -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2014 12:13 AM, Ian wrote:
>>
>>> Maxim,
>>>
>>> OM is running as root, which is the same user I'm using to run that
>>> command manually.
>>>
>>> Here's ps auxwww's output:
>>> root     18492  2.6 10.7 3339236 417136 pts/0  Sl   Dec04
>>> 1:48 /bin/java -Dred5.root=/opt/red5303
>>> -Dlogback.ContextSelector=org.red5.logging.LoggingContextSelector
>>> -Dcatalina.useNaming=true -Djava.security.debug=failure
>>> -Xverify:none -XX:+TieredCompilation -XX:+UseBiasedLocking -XX:
>>> +UseStringCache -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:InitialCodeCacheSize=8m
>>> -XX:ReservedCodeCacheSize=32m
>>> -Dorg.terracotta.quartz.skipUpdateCheck=true -Dpython.home=lib
>>> -cp /opt/red5303/red5-service.jar:/opt/red5303/conf:
>>> org.red5.server.Bootstrap
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/4/2014 11:32 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>> can you run the command using "sudo -u _your_om_user_ java ....."
>>>> is it also fails?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Ian <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>         Maxim,
>>>>         
>>>>         I completely forgot that this is its own process -- no
>>>>         Apache web server... Everything has been running as root
>>>>         (I'll change that later once everything is working
>>>>         correctly .. AND turn on selinux again).
>>>>         
>>>>         Here's what is happening when OM attempts to convert:
>>>>         
>>>>         Here's the command that OM is executing:
>>>>         java -Doffice.home=/usr/lib64/libreoffice
>>>>         -cp /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-io-1.4.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/juh-3.2.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jurt-3.2.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/ridl-3.2.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/unoil-3.2.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-cli-1.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/json-20090211.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar 
>>>> -jar 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar 
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/uploadtemp/files/8ccfad9d8bd6a720662bb80b4580e66a.doc
>>>>  
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/8ccfad9d8bd6a720662bb80b4580e66a/8ccfad9d8bd6a720662bb80b4580e66a.pdf
>>>>         
>>>>         And here's what is happening with it:
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:03:49 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ProcessPoolOfficeManager 
>>>> <init>
>>>>         INFO: ProcessManager implementation is LinuxProcessManager
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:03:49 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeProcess start
>>>>         INFO: starting process with acceptString
>>>>         'socket,host=127.0.0.1,port=2002,tcpNoDelay=1' and
>>>>         profileDir
>>>>         '/tmp/.jodconverter_socket_host-127.0.0.1_port-2002'
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:03:49 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeProcess start
>>>>         INFO: started process; pid = 18757
>>>>         Exception in thread "main"
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeException:
>>>>         failed to start and connect
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess.startAndWait(ManagedOfficeProcess.java:64)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.PooledOfficeManager.start(PooledOfficeManager.java:101)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ProcessPoolOfficeManager.start(ProcessPoolOfficeManager.java:62)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.cli.Convert.main(Convert.java:112)
>>>>         Caused by: java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException:
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeException:
>>>>         could not establish connection
>>>>                 at
>>>>         java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.report(FutureTask.java:122)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.get(FutureTask.java:188)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess.startAndWait(ManagedOfficeProcess.java:62)
>>>>                 ... 3 more
>>>>         Caused by:
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeException:
>>>>         could not establish connection
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess.doStartProcessAndConnect(ManagedOfficeProcess.java:142)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess.access$000(ManagedOfficeProcess.java:31)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess
>>>>         $1.run(ManagedOfficeProcess.java:58)
>>>>                 at java.util.concurrent.Executors
>>>>         $RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:262)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
>>>>                 at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor
>>>>         $Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
>>>>                 at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
>>>>         Caused by:
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeException:
>>>>         office process died with exit code 0
>>>>                 at
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess
>>>>         $6.attempt(ManagedOfficeProcess.java:136)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.Retryable.execute(Retryable.java:40)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.Retryable.execute(Retryable.java:30)
>>>>                 at
>>>>         
>>>> org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess.doStartProcessAndConnect(ManagedOfficeProcess.java:120)
>>>>                 ... 7 more
>>>>         
>>>>         Again, when I run this by hand, it works flawlessly.  What
>>>>         could be going on?  Some kind of Java security issue?
>>>>         
>>>>         Here's the same command (with the input file changed)
>>>>         along with the output:
>>>>         
>>>>         java -Doffice.home=/usr/lib64/libreoffice
>>>>         -cp /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-io-1.4.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/juh-3.2.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jurt-3.2.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/ridl-3.2.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/unoil-3.2.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-cli-1.1.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/json-20090211.jar -cp 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar 
>>>> -jar 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar 
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/8ccfad9d8bd6a720662bb80b4580e66a/8ccfad9d8bd6a720662bb80b4580e66a.doc
>>>>  
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/8ccfad9d8bd6a720662bb80b4580e66a/8ccfad9d8bd6a720662bb80b4580e66a.pdf
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:07 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ProcessPoolOfficeManager 
>>>> <init>
>>>>         INFO: ProcessManager implementation is LinuxProcessManager
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:07 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeProcess start
>>>>         INFO: starting process with acceptString
>>>>         'socket,host=127.0.0.1,port=2002,tcpNoDelay=1' and
>>>>         profileDir
>>>>         '/tmp/.jodconverter_socket_host-127.0.0.1_port-2002'
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:07 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeProcess start
>>>>         INFO: started process; pid = 19497
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:12 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess
>>>>         $6 attempt
>>>>         WARNING: office process died with exit code 81; restarting
>>>>         it
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:12 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeProcess start
>>>>         INFO: starting process with acceptString
>>>>         'socket,host=127.0.0.1,port=2002,tcpNoDelay=1' and
>>>>         profileDir
>>>>         '/tmp/.jodconverter_socket_host-127.0.0.1_port-2002'
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:12 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeProcess start
>>>>         INFO: started process; pid = 19525
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:17 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeConnection
>>>>         connect
>>>>         INFO: connected:
>>>>         'socket,host=127.0.0.1,port=2002,tcpNoDelay=1'
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:20 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ProcessPoolOfficeManager stop
>>>>         INFO: stopping
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:20 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeConnection$1
>>>>         disposing
>>>>         INFO: disconnected:
>>>>         'socket,host=127.0.0.1,port=2002,tcpNoDelay=1'
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:20 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ManagedOfficeProcess
>>>>         doEnsureProcessExited
>>>>         INFO: process exited with code 0
>>>>         Dec 04, 2014 11:10:20 PM
>>>>         org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.ProcessPoolOfficeManager stop
>>>>         INFO: stopped
>>>>         
>>>>         On 12/4/2014 9:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>         > The file is initially being uploaded into uploadtemp and
>>>>         > converted from that folder, then moved to upload (might
>>>>         > be redundant and definitely will be simplified in future
>>>>         > versions) 
>>>>         > 
>>>>         > 
>>>>         > Actually jodconverter might fail to convert as user
>>>>         > "nobody", I saw this couple of times and was able to fix
>>>>         > by setting HOME=/nonexistent in /etc/init.d/red5 script
>>>>         > 
>>>>         > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ian
>>>>         > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>         >         I just checked the source and I doubt this is a
>>>>         >         bug now.  Simple stuff
>>>>         >         --  convert to pdf, create some thumbnails,
>>>>         >         create the swf, and then
>>>>         >         move the file from the uploadtemp folder.
>>>>         >         
>>>>         >         My only guess is that there is some type of
>>>>         >         path/environment variable
>>>>         >         issue that is stopping java from working the
>>>>         >         same as when I run the
>>>>         >         commands manually.  I assume that is what all of
>>>>         >         those -cp are about
>>>>         >         since I didn't need any of them to successfully
>>>>         >         convert to pdf?
>>>>         >         
>>>>         >         I'm going to switch to the apache user and run
>>>>         >         the same command... maybe
>>>>         >         that will shed some light on what is breaking.
>>>>         >         
>>>>         >         On 12/4/2014 1:02 PM, Ian wrote:
>>>>         >         > After uploading a ppt and pptx file, I'm
>>>>         >         finding that I cannot open them
>>>>         >         > -- I get a DELETED image on the whiteboard
>>>>         >         instead.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > Digging deeper, I see that the file has
>>>>         >         uploaded, but that no other part
>>>>         >         > of the conversion has occurred.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > The logs show the file being uploaded, and the
>>>>         >         conversion command executing:
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > DEBUG 12-04 12:19:21.688 ProcessHelper.java
>>>>         >         188867 104
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         org.apache.openmeetings.util.process.ProcessHelper
>>>>         >         > [http-nio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-6] - START
>>>>         >         doJodConvert #################
>>>>         >         > DEBUG 12-04 12:19:21.688 ProcessHelper.java
>>>>         >         188867 105
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         org.apache.openmeetings.util.process.ProcessHelper
>>>>         >         > [http-nio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-6] - java
>>>>         >         > -Doffice.home=/usr/lib64/libreoffice -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-io-1.4.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/juh-3.2.1.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jurt-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/ridl-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/unoil-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-cli-1.1.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/json-20090211.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar
>>>>         >         > -jar
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/uploadtemp/files/9f36f633d4c43988521833c9265ac935.pptx
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/9f36f633d4c43988521833c9265ac935/9f36f633d4c43988521833c9265ac935.pdf
>>>>         >         > DEBUG 12-04 12:19:21.688 ProcessHelper.java
>>>>         >         188867 106
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         org.apache.openmeetings.util.process.ProcessHelper
>>>>         >         > [http-nio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-6] - END
>>>>         >         doJodConvert #################
>>>>         >         > DEBUG 12-04 12:19:21.923 ProcessHelper.java
>>>>         >         189102 148
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         org.apache.openmeetings.util.process.ProcessHelper
>>>>         >         > [http-nio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-6] - exitVal: 1
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > but note the time fields -- it is exiting
>>>>         >         milliseconds after starting.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > When I execute that command manually, it
>>>>         >         states that the input file is
>>>>         >         > missing -- likely because it's looking in the
>>>>         >         uploadtemp folder and not
>>>>         >         > the final destination of
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         
>>>> '/opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/9f36f633d4c43988521833c9265ac935'
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > Is this a bug?  Should the converter be
>>>>         >         looking for the source file at a
>>>>         >         > different location?
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > When I adjust the command to find the source
>>>>         >         file where it currently
>>>>         >         > resides, I eventually get a timeout exception
>>>>         >         instead, and this takes a
>>>>         >         > LONG time to happen -- not in the milliseconds
>>>>         >         range.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > This is the modified command:
>>>>         >         > java -Doffice.home=/usr/lib64/libreoffice -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-io-1.4.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/juh-3.2.1.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jurt-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/ridl-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/unoil-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-cli-1.1.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/json-20090211.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar
>>>>         >         > -jar
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/9f36f633d4c43988521833c9265ac935/9f36f633d4c43988521833c9265ac935.pptx
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/9f36f633d4c43988521833c9265ac935/9f36f633d4c43988521833c9265ac935.pdf
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > Assuming that the pptx file just isn't
>>>>         >         convertible with this system, I
>>>>         >         > uploaded a ppt file instead.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > Same initial results -- immediate exit from
>>>>         >         the conversion program with
>>>>         >         > DELETED shown on the whiteboard.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > However, when I manually run the command
>>>>         >         pointing to where the source
>>>>         >         > file is actually located, this time the pdf
>>>>         >         file is successfully created:
>>>>         >         > java -Doffice.home=/usr/lib64/libreoffice -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-io-1.4.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/juh-3.2.1.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jurt-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/ridl-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/unoil-3.2.1.jar 
>>>> -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/commons-cli-1.1.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/json-20090211.jar -cp
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar
>>>>         >         > -jar
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4/lib/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4.jar
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/34c77a6ad9556313215a9368f9320f9e/34c77a6ad9556313215a9368f9320f9e.ppt
>>>>         >         > 
>>>> /opt/red5303/webapps/openmeetings/upload/files/34c77a6ad9556313215a9368f9320f9e/34c77a6ad9556313215a9368f9320f9e.pdf
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > Of course, that still doesn't help get it to
>>>>         >         show up on the whiteboard,
>>>>         >         > because the corresponding swf file wasn't also
>>>>         >         created.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > I should note that uploading pdf files into OM
>>>>         >         works correctly -- they
>>>>         >         > correctly appear on the whiteboard, so at
>>>>         >         least that part of the
>>>>         >         > workflow is working properly.
>>>>         >         
>>>>         >         
>>>>         > 
>>>>         > 
>>>>         > 
>>>>         > 
>>>>         > -- 
>>>>         > WBR
>>>>         > Maxim aka solomax
>>>>         
>>>>         
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>

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