Thanks Daniel, Ramón and Maxim
Sorry I took long in answering, but it was sleep time, apart from a virus that 
has me a bit inactive.
A biological VIRUS not a digital one.

I'll look into your suggestions.  The calculator is fantastic.

Thanks.


Richard 



 
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On Sat, 8/7/17, Daniel Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: OpenMeetings Broadcaster vs OpenMeetings Receiver
 To: [email protected]
 Date: Saturday, 8 July, 2017, 21:04
 
 You can use the bandwidth
 calculator on the OpenMeetings website :
 
 http://openmeetings.apache.org/NetworkCalculator.html
 
 
 On 7/9/2017 7:54 AM,
 Richard Pérez wrote:
 > Thanks Andrea for
 your quick reply, and specially for correcting my mistaken
 idea.
 >
 > Bandwidth:
 what a coincidence, I was just reading a jitsi.org thread 
http://lists.jitsi.org/pipermail/users/2017-June/013240.html
 > that brought that into my radar.  The
 truth is I hadn't thought of that, considering
 commercial webinar services offer hundreds of attendees,
 without jerking a muscle.  I suppose they have their own
 servers, something I don't have, except for my own
 computer.
 > I suppose my computer, the
 bandwidth I receive from the phone company would be my
 server, right?
 >
 > I
 haven't looked into the calculations given in that Jitsi
 thread, but is there an easy way of calculating the
 bandwidth use if only presenter has Audio/video tuned on?  
 I don't really expect to get so many attendees: I'll
 be lucky if there are 10, 25 would make me very happy, and I
 don't dare say in a public venue what might happen to me
 with 50 or more... I'd probably divide those registrants
 into two different groups with different dates.
 >
 > Thanks again Andrea
 for your help.  If the attendees would have to go through
 all the rough work, I'd had to give up.
 > Now I can move forward with more
 confidence.
 >
 >
 >
 > Richard
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
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 > On Sat, 8/7/17, Andrea Croci <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 >
 >   Subject:
 Re: OpenMeetings Broadcaster vs OpenMeetings Receiver
 >   To: [email protected]
 >   Date: Saturday, 8 July, 2017, 17:46
 >   
 >   No Richard, by
 no means will the
 >  
 "receivers" have to install anything at
 >   all in their computers. You will
 install and
 >   configure Openmeetings
 on
 >   your server and
 >   they will watch your webinars with a
 browser, following
 >   a link you will
 provide. It's very easy
 >   indeed.
 Having said that, beware
 >   of how
 >   many prospect people you will have
 watching you webinar,
 >   because
 >   you may have bandwidth issues.
 >   
 >   Saludos,
 Andrea.
 >   
 >   On
 08.07.2017 22:59, Richard Pérez wrote:
 >   > Dear all advocates:
 >   >
 >   > I am
 not an app
 >   developer, I scarcely get
 around as an advanced user of
 >  
 software.
 >   > For some time I have
 been
 >   looking for a Webinar service
 so I can offer my
 >   colleagues,
 >   > and anyone interested in
 >   professional translation, a webinar
 where I can deliver
 >   my
 >   > experience and, maybe, increase
 my
 >   income a bit.  However I have
 crashed with the
 >   > inability of
 all webinar companies (the
 >   Goto, the
 Jam, Any, and a long etcetera) to provide
 >   > payment options for everyone. 
 They are
 >   all centered on Credit
 Cards or PayPal (which is
 >   > the
 same as credit cards).  Some of them
 > 
  even offer false or misleading advertising on their
 >   > websites saying they accept wire
 transfer,
 >   but when you ask them to
 provide the details they
 >   >
 disappear (Goto), or they answer with
 > 
  links to pay with a credit card (Zoom) and when they
 >   > finally answer to the question,
 they say
 >   they only accept bank
 transfer if you pay a whole
 >  
 year's
 >   > subscription (many
 hundreds
 >   or thousands of dollars),
 despite they were well aware I
 >   could
 only
 >   > pay by month.  I am
 not
 >   rich, and I don't have
 access to a credit card, and
 >   these
 companies are
 >   > not capable of
 >   offering other payment systems (like
 Skrill, Xoom, and
 >   others).  Why
 they don't?
 >   > The easy
 >   answer is they are idiots because they
 might be losing
 >   business
 opportunities, focusing
 >   > only
 >   on the "big money", but maybe
 there is another
 >   reason.
 >   > Well, I won't rant
 >   anymore.
 >  
 >
 >   > I am here
 >   because I thought I might be able to
 adopt OpenMeetings,
 >   maybe the only
 alternative
 >   > to a market
 >   which really is only for an elite.  I
 have worked with open
 >   source
 software before
 >   > (like Joomla
 -
 >   even tweaking its inner organs to
 create my own
 >   functionalities), but
 of course,
 >   > with
 >   much help from the experts or finding
 common solutions to
 >   problems on the
 Internet, so I am
 >   > very
 >   aware and grateful of the fantastic
 work you do.  If I can
 >   do this with
 OpenMeetings, even if it
 >   >
 >   takes time, it would be very
 worthwhile. However, although I
 >   am
 confident, the problems I have
 >   >
 found
 >   installing, configuring and
 creating a webinar with
 >  
 OpenMeetings, can be solved eventually,
 >   >
 >   there is
 one issue that might not have an easy solution at
 >   this moment.  I must say this mail is
 not
 >   > purposed to criticize but
 to understand
 >   OpenMeetings real
 functionalities at all levels, at this
 >   point
 >   > of
 time.
 >   >
 >  
 > This issue would be the following:
 >   > Me, as OpenMeetings-Webinar
 manager, host
 >   and presenter or
 “broadcaster”, I should go into all
 >   the
 >   > tasks
 required to have it up and
 >   running
 effectively and efficiently (ideal but not
 >   impossible) to deliver a
 >   > given webinar
 >   or provide a meeting place.  This
 requires lots of
 >   downloading,
 installing many different
 >   >
 >   apps, changing settings in my computer,
 solving quite a few
 >   install and
 usability issues, and creating
 >   >
 an appropriate guide with access
 >  
 procedures for my “receivers”, those who will watch
 my
 >   webinar(s)
 > 
  > to register and enter the
 >  
 meeting as easily as possible.
 >  
 >
 >   > However, if my
 “receivers” have to go
 >   through
 that same process, downloading, installing, etc.,
 >   most
 >   >
 probably I won’t have any
 >  
 “receiver”, even if my webinar was worth a Grammy.
 >   >
 >   > Most
 commercial
 >   webinar services just
 require one download and a simple
 >  
 activation.
 >   >
 >   > Please
 >  
 correct me if I’m wrong, but, with OpenMeetings, must
 >   those users who will be
 “receiving”
 >   >
 >   my “broadcast” go through the same
 procedures with
 >   imagemagick, FFMpeg,
 Ghostscript, SWFtools,
 >   > SOX,
 Environment variables, install and
 >  
 configure OpenMeetings, screensharing download, and
 >   > whatever else I haven’t
 discovered
 >   yet?  Or is there a way
 for “receivers” to enter a room
 >  
 with a simple
 >   > download and a
 pair of
 >   clicks?
 >   >
 >   >
 Please
 >   excuse for such a lengthy
 post, including the rant, and I
 >   hope
 anyone can give me a bit of light on
 >  
 > this, the “receivers” side.
 >  
 >
 >   > Regards,
 >   >
 >   >
 >   >
 >   Richard
 >   
 >   
 >
 >
 
 

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