Hi,

just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)

Greetings Peter

Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs"
requires sort of templating ....
So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....

Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
    didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one
    should be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...

    Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
    I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
    disagree with is "/put the videos in the user-list for user with
    activated video... zoom on mouse over." /We have implemented an
    area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
    although they can be repositioned at any time by the
    participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is above
    the whiteboards. Dan
    /
    /
    /Inline image 1
    /

    On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I think a default layout after creating a room should be
        loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the
        layout to his needs (for the specific scenario) and then
        could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also
        for the audience".
        I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
        x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to
        use this layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to
        default"-button would also be needed.

        I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
        types...

        Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
        should be also a container to collect them. And here it
        should depend on the size of the container, how they will be
        displayed... another possibility would be to put the videos
        in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
        mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like
        that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)

        and another point for the list...
        It would be great to implement an option, to put the
        video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the
        whiteboard in a presentation room. This is the place where
        the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed. The
        moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
        is visible for the audience. I think for a normal
        presentation this should be the default case for the
        audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is minimized
        or hidden.




        Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

            Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
            chat,userlist,a&a)
            should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
            Admin?
            So room will be 'customized' for all users?

            On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Hi Maxim,

                I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should
                be resizeable up to
                hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a
                given view of a room.
                This would give the possibility for all moderators to
                adapt a room
                (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.

                Greetings Peter


                Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

                OK, the VOTE has been started :)
                So lets continue this discussion :)))

                I looked through all comments and will try to sum up
                all ideas before I'll
                start prototyping :)

                Collapsible user list
                It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and
                A&A simultaneously
                visible without overlapping
                enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a
                given time (10s?)
                user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
                bigger avatars on mouse over
                toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"

                I believe all main ideas are listed above

                What I propose is

                create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
                start prototyping and periodically discuss results
                using 'on-next' demo
                server

                I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
                Please let me know if I missed something :))


                On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                wrote:

                    Sorry for being silent,

                    That might save some space.
                    I'm going to finish implementing missing features
                    in 4.0.0 and get
                    back to this discussion

                    On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Hi,

                        I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to
                        describe the idea of the
                        'function hub'.
                        The concept should be: 'one point of
                        interaction'.
                        The tools appears with the mouse over event.
                        The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
                        But I think it should also be an option to
                        have the user-panel always on
                        top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.

                        Best regards
                        Ed


                        Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
                        Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>
                        An: "Openmeetings user-list"
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>,
                        "[email protected]"
                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>
                        Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard
                        for 4.0.0
                        OK, page and zoom controls seems to be
                        implemented
                        Demo is updated
                        I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated
                        later :))
                        You can play with current implementation it
                        is CSS based so anyone can
                        customize it :)

                        On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>
                        wrote:

                            Dear OpenMeetings Community,

                            It would be great to learn about Ed's
                            ideas on "function hub". In the
                            meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are
                            our thoughts about the Page
                            Navigator.

                            The salient part is the navigator appears
                            and disappears in
                            "real-time", thereby making the UI more
                            user friendly. That is,
                            1. when a file is displayed and
                            disappears when the displayed file is
                            removed. This gives more working space
                            for other relevant items.
                            2. only on the whiteboard where there is
                            a displayed file.

                            Perhaps we could have a similar
                            "real-time" expandable / collapsible
                            frame of the
                            1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon
                            with a tooltip. When we hover
                            on this icon, it will expand to open the
                            user panel. When we move out of the
                            panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files
                            panel and toolbar below.
                            2. Files panel

                            This could possibly be done by combining
                            1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
                            <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
                            2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside
                            of their own relative area.
                            Animate from (0,0) position both minus
                            values so that they expand towards
                            bottom right. z-index of expanding block
                            will be higher than surrounding so
                            that it appears on top.
                            $(".img a img").hover(function() {
                            $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);

                            // this is where the popping out effect
                            happens
                            $(this).animate({ height: "800", width:
                            "200", left: "-=30", top:
                            "-=30" }, "fast");

                            }, function() {
                            $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
                            $(this).animate({ height: "20", width:
                            "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
                            }, "fast");
                            });

                            Thank you.

                            Sincerely,

                            Hemant K. Sabat

                            Coscend Communications Solutions
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                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: Maxim Solodovnik
                            [mailto:[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>]
                            Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
                            To: Openmeetings user-list
                            <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>>
                            Cc: [email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>
                            Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5
                            whiteboard for 4.0.0

                            Hello Ed,

                            what do you mean by "It should be
                            expanded to a new fuction hub"?

                            On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS
                            Technik <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


                                Hi,

                                the new navigation bar looks realy good.
                                It should be expanded to a new
                                fuction hub (colour picker, tool
                                selection, ...).


                                Best regards

                                Ed


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                                |Just have updated
                                
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                                |navigator Would love to get some
                                input :)

                                On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM,
                                Peter Dähn <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                    like chat/activities nowadays...

                                    Just like I wanted to show in my
                                    "mockup" (see attachment)




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