It seems Flash trying to talk RTMPTS with RTMPS service Could you share these options
1. fallback: "rtmpt://localhost:5080/openmeetings/11" 2. mode: "broadcast" 3. native:"false" 4. rtmpPort: "1935" 5. rtmpsPort:"8443" 6. secure:"false" 7. Available in DEV console during appInit() call On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Maxim, > > I turned on the debug mode and I did see error messages in the Chrome > debug console. > But I don't know how to fix the problems. Do you know how? Please see the > messages below. > > ["onselect WxH :: 120x90"] > VM497:1 ["resize:: 120x90"] > VM498:1 ["Camera selected:: 0"] > VM499:1 ["Entering getCam ..."] > VM500:1 ["IS NO INTERVIEW "] > VM501:1 ["... getCam DONE [object Camera]"] > VM502:1 (2) ["Camera selected:: [object Camera]", false] > VM504:1 ["Entering getCam ..."] > VM505:1 ["IS NO INTERVIEW "] > VM506:1 ["... getCam DONE [object Camera]"] > VM507:1 ["_attachCamera():: muted ? false"] > VM508:1 ["_attachCamera()::done"] > :8443/open/1:1 POST https://www.ideastoproduct.net:8443/open/1 > net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE > VM512:1 ["ConnectionStatus: NetConnection.Connect.Failed"] > VM517:1 (2) ["setRightsCallback", Array(1)] > VM518:1 (3) ["_updateExclusive", Array(1), Array(3)] > VM705:1 (2) ["appInit()", {…}] > VM706:1 ["resize:: 300x200"] > VM707:1 (2) ["NetConnection is not connected", "rtmps:// > www.ideastoproduct.net:8443/openmeetings/2"] > :8443/open/1:1 POST https://www.ideastoproduct.net:8443/open/1 > net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE > VM798:1 ["ConnectionStatus: NetConnection.Connect.Failed"] > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> You can try to turn-on client debugging and check browser console ... >> >> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Massages from openmeetings.log are just DEBUG messages, nothing to worry >>> about >>> Have you saved the Camera/Mic settings in Settings dialog? >>> >>> I don't know what can be wrong since everything works on demo ... >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Adobe Flash in Firefox somethings will crash in the step. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In the choose device window, it will ask for camera permission. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the demo website, after I enter a public room, the browser will >>>>>> ask for the camera permission, however, in my website, the browser does >>>>>> not >>>>>> ask. >>>>>> This means the browser does not want to use camera. I don't know why. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I checked my openmeetings.log. >>>>>>> I do see an error message: >>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:21.272 o.a.o.c.r.ScopeApplicationAdapter:767 >>>>>>> [Thread-57] - [MessageSender] -> 'Unable to send message to NULL scope' >>>>>>> clientUpdated, null >>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:21.297 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:103 [0.0-5443-exec-3] >>>>>>> - :: hasPoll :: 4 >>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:21.300 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:97 [0.0-5443-exec-3] - >>>>>>> :: getArchived :: 4 >>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:32.706 o.a.o.w.c.MainPanel:117 [0.0-5443-exec-9] - >>>>>>> Sending WebSocket PING >>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:39.925 o.a.o.w.a.Application:619 [0.0-5443-exec-8] >>>>>>> - Removing online room client: 8ad9cbcb-7ebc-4822-a8fb-c590c152448d, >>>>>>> room: 4 >>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:39.932 o.a.o.c.r.ScopeApplicationAdapter:767 >>>>>>> [Thread-58] - [MessageSender] -> 'Unable to send message to NULL scope' >>>>>>> stopStream, java.lang.Object@4fa3b9c5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this related to my problem? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, Maxim, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also thought I just need to set the Camera/Microphone once and it >>>>>>>> will automatically start. This is the case in OM3.3. >>>>>>>> However, in OM4.0, this does not work. I can see the video in the >>>>>>>> settings, but I cannot see the video after that. >>>>>>>> Please see the attached image. I really don't know why. It is so >>>>>>>> strange. The port issue is solved. >>>>>>>> So, I know the port does not cause this problem. >>>>>>>> Do you know why? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:54 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Tom, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm answering emails as soon as I got free time, you shouldn't >>>>>>>>> expect immediate answer :)) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Camera/Microphone will be started automatically as soon as you >>>>>>>>> will set it up once >>>>>>>>> So open the settings, choose correct devises, press Save >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> According to port availability you need to check detailed results: >>>>>>>>> push small "Copy" button on the right, Paste result to some text file >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> check what is wrong >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Another issue is that when I do port testing using the tool on >>>>>>>>>> the login page. The port testing always fails even thought I opened >>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> ports in my server. >>>>>>>>>> Do you know why? Is this issue related to the camera issue? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I can see my video if I click "choose device". >>>>>>>>>>> However, I still cannot see the video in my camera in the public >>>>>>>>>>> conference. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The demo website does not have this problem. So, I know it must >>>>>>>>>>> be some settings in my side. >>>>>>>>>>> Any idea how to solve this issue? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. I fixed the problem. Now I can connect using https. I will >>>>>>>>>>>> explain to you how I fixed the problem later. >>>>>>>>>>>> However, after I enter a public room, it seems my camera is not >>>>>>>>>>>> working. >>>>>>>>>>>> I remember in OM3.3. The camera automatically starts. Is there >>>>>>>>>>>> a button I need to press in OM4.0 to start my camera? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring these instructions: http://openmeeti >>>>>>>>>>>>> ngs.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I have no time to check everything .... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now there are some logs in red5.log >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:39,998 [NioProcessor-11] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.s.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaConnection - Connection is closed: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WNZC8FWV7N3VL >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:39,998 [NioProcessor-11] WARN >>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.s.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Connection was not found >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for WNZC8FWV7N3VL >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:40,007 [RTMPConnectionScheduler-5] WARN >>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.server.net.rtmp.RTMPConnection - Closing O4WODAWEPAMAT, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> due to long handshake. State: connect >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:40,007 [NioProcessor-12] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.s.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaConnection - Connection is closed: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> O4WODAWEPAMAT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:40,007 [NioProcessor-12] WARN >>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.s.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Connection was not found >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for O4WODAWEPAMAT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Tom Luo <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.markmail.org/message/j4gx2q6woidyqj7l?q= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> letsencrypt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the instruction I followed. I performed step 1-8. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just skipped step 7 as you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't feel I miss any step. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you miss some steps from the instructions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. I did SSL for the web interface and Set up Native >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RTMPS. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It still does not work. Nothing is listening at port 5443. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any other ideas why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you performed these: http://openmeetings.apa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> che.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html#SSL_for_the_web_interface >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steps? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I cleared my old log and restarted the red5. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is my red5.log: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 11:04:47,270 [main] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.red5.server.Launcher - Red5 Server 1.0.10 ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Red5) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 11:04:47,338 [main] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.s.c.s.FileSystemXmlApplicationContext - Refreshing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.context.su >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pport.FileSystemXmlApplicationContext@5f2050f6: startup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date [Wed Nov 08 11:04:47 EST 2017]; root of context >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hierarchy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 11:04:47,393 [main] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.s.b.f.xml.XmlBeanDefinitionReader - Loading XML bean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitions from class path resource [red5.xml] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 11:04:47,572 [main] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.s.b.f.xml.XmlBeanDefinitionReader - Loading XML bean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitions from class path resource [jee-container.xml] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I can still use http at port 5080 to access >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM4.0; however https still does not work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I need to check other places? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please check red5.log. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red5 reports what ports it is listening >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ports are configured in red5.properties >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTTP vs HTTPS is being configured in jee*.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All other configuration values are in Admin->Config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a similar configuration file like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> webapps/openmeetings/public/config.xml in OM4.0? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Maxim, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked the more up-to-date instructions you sent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It still lists step 7: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> webapps/openmeetings/public/config.xml| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand you said this step is not necessary. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I tried to access mydoamin:5443/openmeetings. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just see an inaccessible error. More important, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried sudo netstat -plnt, but nothing is listening at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port 5443. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I started the red5 server. Do you know why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is email from 2016 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not necessary to modify config.xml anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These parameters are redundant since 4.0.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <protocol>https</protocol> <red5httpport>5443</ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> red5httpport> <rtmpsslport>5443</rtmpsslport> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These can be set via Admin->Config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <useSSL>yes</useSSL> <proxyType>none</proxyType> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the thread with more up-to-date >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions: http://markmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/message/ik4qdhdychl364bp (I haven't check them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the email: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.markmail.o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg/message/hqwjnihcfb4tqxkx?q=letsencrypt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It said we need to modify >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edit ../webapps/openmeetings/public/config.xml and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <protocol>https</protocol> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <red5httpport>5443</red5httpport> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rtmpsslport>5443</rtmpsslport> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <useSSL>yes</useSSL> <proxyType>none</proxyType> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, in OM4.0, I cannot find the config.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, which file should I modify? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> WBR >>> Maxim aka solomax >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> WBR >> Maxim aka solomax >> > > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
