...this link can be?:

https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/l
astSuccessfulBuild/artifact/openmeetings-server/target/apache-
openmeetings-5.0.0-M1-SNAPSHOT.zip


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El lun, 25-03-2019 a las 11:23 +0100, Alvaro escribió:
> 
> Maxim, just today can upload a tuto OM 5 on Ubuntu 18.04,
> but i need a link to OM 5 file (maybe the snapshot?) to download
> and to know the ports to open: 5080 and...
> 
> ....................
> 
> 
> El sáb, 23-03-2019 a las 08:04 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > Hello Alvaro,
> > First released WebRTC version will be 5.0.0-M1
> > 
> > According to "How configure "nobody" user in kurento-docker?"
> > It is described here [1] "Kurento Configuration" section
> > 
> > I would copy `/etc/default/kurento-media-server` file from "real"
> > KMS installation
> > To some local folder for ex. /opt/kurento-config
> > Change DAEMON_USER
> > and then add another `--mount` command to `docker run`
> > --mount type=bind,source=/opt/kurento-
> > config,target=/etc/default/kurento-media-server
> > 
> > [1] https://hub.docker.com/r/kurento/kurento-media-server/
> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 02:11, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Please Maxim, could you let me know:
> > > # Number of OM 5.x.x release
> > > # This is the last point i need: How configure "nobody" user in
> > > kurento-docker?
> > > Thank you...
> > > 
> > > ...................................
> > > 
> > > El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 18:10 +0100, Alvaro escribió:
> > > > ...sorry, Google transllation works not very right.I mean, not
> > > > lies but "Main"...
> > > > 
> > > > ................
> > > > El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 18:04 +0100, Alvaro escribió:
> > > > > My interest lies in the time required for the preparation of
> > > > > OM 5 tutorials. Relax a little, taste your work and give me a
> > > > > time to prepare the tutorials.I also think that OM 5 may be
> > > > > the only next release 
> > > > > ...............................
> > > > > El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 23:33 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > My idea was to release 5.0.0-M1 (so "WebRTC train" can
> > > > > > start moving)Then perform some merge between 4.0.x and
> > > > > > 5.0.0 branches (to make my life easier)
> > > > > > Then we can discuss if it worth to release 4.0.9 :)
> > > > > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 23:17, Alvaro <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Could you please tell when will be the next 4.0.9
> > > > > > > release?
> > > > > > > I think you should let it ripen about two more
> > > > > > > weeks. This will polish possible issues and i'll have
> > > > > > > time toprepare the installation tutorials.
> > > > > > > .......................
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 22:32 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > > > > It seems all major issues for 5.0.x were fixed
> > > > > > > > Any objections to release 5.0.0-M1? 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > M1 == Milestone 1, i.e. this version worth wider
> > > > > > > > testing but might be not production ready
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:54, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax6
> > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hmm,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > It seems to be the same issue with Audio in Safari +
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Screen-sharing/Recording is not working
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'll to deal with Audio (will ask you to test)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > And will try to check screen-sharing using "real" Mac
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > most probably next week
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Please file JIRA regarding this :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:44, Alvaro <[email protected]
> > > > > > > > > om> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Ok, now it is installed kurento on Ubuntu 18.04.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > # Server: OM 5.0.0 - Ubuntu 18.04
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > # Client: Safari - Firefox in Mojave
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Please take a look the videos:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OM 5.0.0 Firefox recording in room.mov
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OM 5.0.0 Safari recording in room.mov
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OM 5.0.0 kurento Firefox and Safari.mov
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > -----------------------------
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > El mié, 06-03-2019 a las 21:22 +0700, Maxim
> > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Please do not hesitate to report any issues
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It is really hard to develop OM5 without user
> > > > > > > > > feedback :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 19:53, Maxim Solodovnik <solo
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OK,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OM 5.0.0 is on https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/ne
> > > > > > > > > xt
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I would like to get feedback
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > complex multiuser scenarious are welcome :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 18:55, Maxim Solodovnik <solo
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello James,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > what version are you running? and what are the
> > > > > > > > > issues?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Is it nightly build from our build server? or are
> > > > > > > > > you building from sources?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 18:53, james judge <jjudge.de
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I know I am new to the group,. but I welcome 5.0.0
> > > > > > > > > and will be happy to test. I've got an aws ubuntu 16
> > > > > > > > > instance running and will happily provide feedback. I
> > > > > > > > > have had some issues with the current version doing
> > > > > > > > > desktop sharing and can't wait to see it possibly
> > > > > > > > > working.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > James Judge
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > www.JamesJudge.info
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > (570) 230-4933
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:13 PM Maxim Solodovnik <so
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 4.0.8 VOTE is on the way
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > So it's time for this DISCUSSION :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I was able to implement some missing features
> > > > > > > > > (recording+screen-sharing)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > And I believe now it's time to deploy current 5.0.0
> > > > > > > > > version to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > demo-next and perform couple of rounds of
> > > > > > > > > "community testing"
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 17:36, Maxim Solodovnik <sol
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Good to know it is not OM issue :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > You can use postgres as DB, should work out of the
> > > > > > > > > box :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 16:12, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmai
> > > > > > > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Ok Maxim. 've follow your link and run:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > mysql_tzinfo_to_sql /usr/share/zoneinfo | mysql -u
> > > > > > > > > root -p mysql
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > That have changed something in my Debian 9 that
> > > > > > > > > affect also to my
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Windows 10 (two hours less) but could'nt install OM
> > > > > > > > > 5 on Debian 9.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > So, in Debian 9 was 10 hours AM, and in Windows was
> > > > > > > > > 8 hours AM.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Today, in Debian 9, 've changed tzdata from
> > > > > > > > > Europe/Madrid to Atlantic/Azores
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > (two hours less). After this tryied install OM 5
> > > > > > > > > and...WINNER!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The problem it was relationed with tzdata, as you
> > > > > > > > > said.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Alvaro
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > .....................................................
> > > > > > > > > ........
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 17:01 +0700, Maxim
> > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Check this article: https://stackoverflow.com/quest
> > > > > > > > > ions/49518683/the-server-time-zone-value-cest-is-
> > > > > > > > > unrecognized
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 17:00, Maxim Solodovnik <sol
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It is weird you have both: Europe/Madrid (CEST,
> > > > > > > > > +0200)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'll try to Google this error, should be something
> > > > > > > > > well-known
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 16:55, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmai
> > > > > > > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ...i will try in Fedora 28.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Here is it you ask:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > root@cor:/home/guadal# timedatectl
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >       Local time: vie 2018-10-19 11:37:19 CEST
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >   Universal time: vie 2018-10-19 09:37:19 UTC
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >         RTC time: vie 2018-10-19 11:37:19
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >        Time zone: Europe/Madrid (CEST, +0200)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >  Network time on: yes
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > NTP synchronized: no
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >  RTC in local TZ: yes
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Warning: The system is configured to read the RTC
> > > > > > > > > time in the local time zone.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >          This mode can not be fully supported. It
> > > > > > > > > will create various problems
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >          with time zone changes and daylight saving
> > > > > > > > > time adjustments. The RTC
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >          time is never updated, it relies on
> > > > > > > > > external facilities to maintain it.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >          If at all possible, use RTC in UTC by
> > > > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >          'timedatectl set-local-rtc 0'.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ...then i run: timedatectl set-local-rtc 0
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ...and after again:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > root@cor:/home/guadal# timedatectl
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >       Local time: vie 2018-10-19 11:39:11 CEST
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >   Universal time: vie 2018-10-19 09:39:11 UTC
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >         RTC time: vie 2018-10-19 09:39:11
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >        Time zone: Europe/Madrid (CEST, +0200)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >  Network time on: yes
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > NTP synchronized: no
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >  RTC in local TZ: no
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > .....................................................
> > > > > > > > > ...........
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 16:30 +0700, Maxim
> > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Just have checked with
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > mysqld  Ver 5.7.23-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 for Linux on
> > > > > > > > > x86_64 ((Ubuntu))
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Everything works as expected
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Maybe there are some more TZ settings in MariaDB?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > What is the output of
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > `timedatectl`
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 16:18, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmai
> > > > > > > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ...in: /etc/timezone ...is Europe/Madrid, but i've
> > > > > > > > > reconfigured tzdata
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > with Europe/Madrid, but the resultat is the same.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > With OM 4.0.7 is no problem installation.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ........................................
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 15:47 +0700, Maxim
> > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The error is "The server time zone value 'CEST' is
> > > > > > > > > unrecognized or represents more than one time zone.
> > > > > > > > > You must configure either the server or JDBC driver
> > > > > > > > > (via the serverTimezone configuration property) to
> > > > > > > > > use a more specifc time zone value if you want to
> > > > > > > > > utilize time zone support."
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > MySql for some reason don't like if time zone is
> > > > > > > > > set as CEST, can you run
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata`
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > and set something like 'Europe/Madrid' as time
> > > > > > > > > zone?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:43, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmai
> > > > > > > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Please take a look attached files.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ..........................
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 15:34 +0700, Maxim
> > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Will try to reproduce
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Anything useful in the logs?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:32, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmai
> > > > > > > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OM 5 - Snapshot 2605
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > When try install it say: Could not create
> > > > > > > > > connection to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > database.... (attached capture).
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Debian 9, mysql-connector-java-8.0.12.jar
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Alvaro
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ..................................
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 09:04 +0700, Maxim
> > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Correction: OM5 will work with MySql driver 5.x but
> > > > > > > > > you need to change driver class in
> > > > > > > > > mysql_persistense.xml to achieve this
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Driver class name has been changed in 8.x and was
> > > > > > > > > producing warning in the logs, this is why I have
> > > > > > > > > changed it
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 09:01, Maxim Solodovnik <sol
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Alvaro,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OM5 requires latest MySql driver 8.0.12 [1]
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OM4 can use both 5.x and 8.x
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > [1] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/mysql/mysql-
> > > > > > > > > connector-java
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 23:38, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmai
> > > > > > > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I've got the attached capture trying install OM 5
> > > > > > > > > (first Snapshot
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > of today 18-10-2018).
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > With mysql-connector-java-5.1.46.jar and
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > mysql-connector-java-5.1.47.jar
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Alvaro
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ....................................
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > El vie, 12-10-2018 a las 09:48 +0700, Maxim
> > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > some news regarding WebRTC
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Settings dialog is made more user friendly: less
> > > > > > > > > "silent fails", less JS errors
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > BUT it seems some RTC features are not working if
> > > > > > > > > you have MS Edge and Win 10 NOT pro or Enterprise [1]
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I have 2 identical VMs
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 1) with Win 10 Pro
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 2) with Win 10 Pro.N
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I have issues with #2 and everything works as
> > > > > > > > > expected on #1
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Additionally there is an issue with Edge browser:
> > > > > > > > > [2]
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Would appreciate if you can test latest version on
> > > > > > > > > "demo-apache" [3]
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > [1] https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft
> > > > > > > > > -edge/platform/issues/17357055/#comment-5
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETI
> > > > > > > > > NGS-1956
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > [3] https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/openmeetin
> > > > > > > > > gs
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:53, Maxim Solodovnik <solo
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Document conversion is actually broken on this demo
> > > > > > > > > server
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > This seems to be caused by server configuration
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > No sure yet what is wrong
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Will try to fix it in a week or two, have no idea
> > > > > > > > > what can be wrong :(
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:46, Maxim Solodovnik <solo
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'm going to perform additional code-review and
> > > > > > > > > will check this
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > This is only initial version :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hopefully will be improved :))
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:39, Stefan Kühl <stefan@qu
> > > > > > > > > atrekuehl.eu> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Checked it again with Win10 und FF, but with a USB
> > > > > > > > > Headset and it works well! (I just recognize that my
> > > > > > > > > voice was also in my headphones?!)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Retry it with the non USB Headset und it won't
> > > > > > > > > work. I mentioned that FF and Chrome didn't ask for
> > > > > > > > > permission to use the the microphone of the non-USB
> > > > > > > > > Headset. Maybe, this a the point we should draw our
> > > > > > > > > attention too?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Stefan
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 09.10.2018 15:49, schrieb Daniel Ascher:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It is now working properly in Edge.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:04 AM Stefan Kühl <stefan@
> > > > > > > > > quatrekuehl.eu> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Nothing changes. Got another test on an virtual
> > > > > > > > > Win10 and fresh firefox installtion. Same behaviour.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Stefan
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 09.10.2018 10:27, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It is weird: you got "MS Edge" errors on Chrome+FF
> > > > > > > > > :((
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I have fixed some "Edge" errors, so demo should
> > > > > > > > > behave better
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'll fix some more errors with settings dialog
> > > > > > > > > later ...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reports
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:32, Stefan Kühl <stefan@qu
> > > > > > > > > atrekuehl.eu> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The screenshot was taken in firefox 62.0.3 and
> > > > > > > > > ubuntu 18.04., same behaviour in chrome 69.0.329 and
> > > > > > > > > ubuntu 18.04.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Also tried with root and sudo to avoid
> > > > > > > > > restrictions.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Stefan
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 09.10.2018 07:23, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > What OS/Browser are you using?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:09, Stefan Kühl <stefan@qu
> > > > > > > > > atrekuehl.eu> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > tried the OM 5 Demo with plugged in headset. But no
> > > > > > > > > chance to choose it. The "Choose microphone" option
> > > > > > > > > remains in "Loading data, please wait" and everytime
> > > > > > > > > i try to reload, the red error message appears.
> > > > > > > > > Headset is not USB but chinch.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Stefan
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 09.10.2018 06:27, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Actually it is not one page it is OM site being re-
> > > > > > > > > build with every nightly build ...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Site contents should be ready to 5.0 release, so
> > > > > > > > > all pages need to checked/updated
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > news, changelog and announces will be updated
> > > > > > > > > during release process, so it displays 4.0.5 right
> > > > > > > > > now :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 23:53, Daniel Ascher <aplusad
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > This page: https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/
> > > > > > > > > OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/site/openmeetings-
> > > > > > > > > server/index.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > is set up for version 4.0.5, correct? Is that what
> > > > > > > > > you want me to check for errors/updates? Or do you
> > > > > > > > > want something mentioning version 5.0?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Dan
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:51 PM Daniel Ascher <aplu
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I just checked in Edge but there is a problem.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:21 PM Maxim Solodovnik <s
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > document upload seems to be jodConverter and/or
> > > > > > > > > server issue, hopelly will be able to address
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Was 5.0.0 working under Edge? Any issues?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Additional task might be to check site of 5.0
> > > > > > > > > version: https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Open
> > > > > > > > > Meetings/job/openmeetings/site/openmeetings-
> > > > > > > > > server/index.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > and report any outdated/missing/unclear page ....
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 23:03, Daniel Ascher <aplusad
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It's really great that you got WebRTC going!! I'm
> > > > > > > > > sure it's been a lot of hard work.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I tried uploading a document but it didn't work. I
> > > > > > > > > assume that the document conversion stuff isn't
> > > > > > > > > configured yet so that is why I asked what needs to
> > > > > > > > > be tested.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'll try using it in Edge and do some of the
> > > > > > > > > testing you mentioned. Let me know if there is
> > > > > > > > > anything else I can help with.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:09 PM Maxim Solodovnik <so
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Daniel,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > yes, this is WebRTC :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Nettesing and Video setup seems to work as expected
> > > > > > > > > and most probably will not be changed too much
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Room Audio/Video is in "early-alpha" stage and I
> > > > > > > > > would like to know: how good is it so far?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Is on/off audio/video being correctly handled? Same
> > > > > > > > > regarding add/remove rights
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > This version should not work in IE11, Does in work
> > > > > > > > > in Safari/Edge?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 01:48, Daniel Ascher <aplusad
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Maxim. I see that the webcam and audio are
> > > > > > > > > working. Is this WebRTC? What would you like us to
> > > > > > > > > check for when we are trying it out?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Dan
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 11:07 AM Maxim Solodovnik <s
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OK,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > current (I would say alpha version) is available on
> > > > > > > > > our demo server: https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > /openmeetings
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Something still not implemented, and there are
> > > > > > > > > definitely some issues, but this version is
> > > > > > > > > "playable"
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It would be great to get some early feedback ...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 18:35, K, Amit (MIND) <Amit.K
> > > > > > > > > @mind-infotech.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Best of luck... J
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:[email protected]
> > > > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 4:44 PM
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > To: Openmeetings user-list <[email protected]
> > > > > > > > > e.org>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: OM 5
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Aaron,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'm currently trying to set up demo with somehow
> > > > > > > > > working version of 5.0
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Will let you know if it will be successful :)
> > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 23:35, <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > How close do you think it is for going into live
> > > > > > > > > testing with OM5?  Reason I ask is with the most
> > > > > > > > > recent update to Chrome, even with a valid cert, and
> > > > > > > > > even if you told the website to allow flash, users
> > > > > > > > > are having to click allow flash in the audio/video
> > > > > > > > > box.  And then it has to refresh the page to do so. 
> > > > > > > > > Looks like it is across the board with all flash
> > > > > > > > > content on any website now within Chrome.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Didn't know how far out it was for live testing.
> > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
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> > > > > > > > > > President
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> > > > > > > > > > A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Creating Bright Futures"
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> > > > > > > > > > Direct: 267.242.9640
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