If it is very_important_meeting try to find someone from outside your
network and test before the meeting time :)

On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 15:05, Robert Savickas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh my goodness; so silly! After each restart of the machine, each time I
> did launch all the services: mysql (it autostarts), docker, kurento,
> tomcat..... except the coturn! I had just completely forgotten about the
> need to launch coturn.
>
> You are right, Maxim! Coturn was not started. I followed your suggestion,
> killed the extra tomcats and launched coturn. Everyrhing works superbly now!
>
> My international meeting failed yesterday due to this simple oversight on
> my part. No worries, I will schedule a new one.
>
> And thank you for showing me a more efficient way of doing the 'ps'
> command by piping it to grep to see only the processes I am interested in.
>
> Have a good afternoon.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 02:55 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well,
>>
>> I can see you have 3 tomcats running (which is weird)
>>
>> And no turn server
>> Please start one and re-check :)
>>
>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 13:35 Robert Savickas <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Maxim,
>>>
>>> Thank you. May be that was my problem: I should not have moved from
>>> 18.04 to 20.04...
>>>
>>> That also was my very first thought: either the Fire Wall or the router
>>> block the ports. That was the fist thing I checked.  In Firewall, all the
>>> relevant ports (listed in Alvaro's document) are listed as "ALLOW IN".  And
>>> the Internet Service Provider assured me that none of those ports is
>>> blocked.
>>>
>>> I also attach the output of that command that you suggested.
>>>
>>> I do appreciate your attention to this; I know you are probably swamped
>>> with questions.
>>>
>>> Robert.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 01:53 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Robert,
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 in production due to it has native support for
>>>> KMS
>>>> You can check if everything up and running using
>>>>
>>>> `ps -ef| grep 'turn\|kure\|tomcat'`
>>>>
>>>> (for Ubuntu 20.04 there will be no process for KMS)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> your issue might be caused by the FW in the middle
>>>> TURN will not work if its ports are blocked
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 12:23, Robert Savickas <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Denis, thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> I did try to reboot and start the services multiple times, to no
>>>>> avail.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, your response may indicate the potential issues:
>>>>>
>>>>> I followed word-for-word Alvaro's guide "Installation OpenMeetings
>>>>> 5.0.1 on Ubuntu 20.04 lts.pdf", written on 23-9-2020.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the potential issues:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) That guide talks about Tomcat3 only, while you mention Tomcat4.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) That guide calls Curento "kms", as in "sudo docker start kms", but
>>>>> you say it should be "sudo /etc/init.d/kurento-media-server start".
>>>>>
>>>>> I have faith in Alvaro's work, as I had relied on it before. But, we
>>>>> all make mistakes.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, which way is correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 01:10 Denis Noctor <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... follow up to last message, assuming Tomcat4 is installed... try
>>>>>> reboot... then in the following order:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Ubuntu... 18.04)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/coturn start
>>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
>>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/kurento-media-server start
>>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat4 start
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Robert Savickas <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I believe TURN should be configured because I religiously
>>>>>> followed Alvaro's installation guide to the letter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just checked the Turn setup, and it corresponds precisely to
>>>>>> Alvaro's suggestions. Is there a resource in addition to Alvaro's guide
>>>>>> that I should follow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically, all the users who are on the same network as the server,
>>>>>> can enjoy OM beautifully. However, users who are outside of the network 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> see and hear only themselves. For all others, they see only the photos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I, as the administrator, do remain on the same network as the server,
>>>>>> but can not see or hear the participants who are outside the network,
>>>>>> again, only the photos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, I thought that perhaps the firewall or the router are blocking
>>>>>> some ports. But that is not the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I did notice these two odd facts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) there is *no* logfile in the /var/log/turnserver directory. The
>>>>>> directory is empty. Which seems to suggest that Turn never ran... (the 
>>>>>> log
>>>>>> file *is* listed in the /etc/turnserver.conf file).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) whenever I issue the command: "service tomcat3 status", it tells
>>>>>> me that it is inactive. If i restart it by using the command
>>>>>> "/etc/init.d/tomcat3 restart", it still apprears as inactive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tomcat configs are consistent with Alvaro's guide....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 21:48 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Robert,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have TURN server configured?
>>>>>>> Audio/video is absent from both(multiple) parties? or just some of
>>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 01:25, Robert Savickas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All my tests were fine. But now, I am running a live
>>>>>>>> (trans-Atlantic) session, and there is no video or sound.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chat box works. White board too. KMS seems to be running and no
>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 04:12 Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if you are a heavy user of the WB, you can add icons to
>>>>>>>>> /opt/om-folder/webapps/openmeetings/public/cliparts/ and use it in 
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> presentations/lectures :-)
>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/20 10:28 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Every "silly question" most probably highlights UX issue ...
>>>>>>>>> Please let us know if you see how user interface can be made more
>>>>>>>>> intuitive :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 14:02, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I supposed before: this was a silly question on my part.
>>>>>>>>>> Please forgive me for not being aware of the options (2) and (3) 
>>>>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>>>>> mentioned. They are what I sought. I am becoming more familiar with 
>>>>>>>>>> OM.
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 02:29 Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it sounds like we are talking about different things
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently there are 3 download options for WB
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) *diskette icon* in WB tools - will save WB in internal
>>>>>>>>>>> format, you can then load saved WB and use it's objects (no 
>>>>>>>>>>> download)
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Menu -> Action -> *Download as PDF* - will convert current
>>>>>>>>>>> WB to PDF format and will show you "save as" dialog
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Menu -> Action -> *Download as PNG* - will convert current
>>>>>>>>>>> WB to PNG (current slide only) format and will show you "save as" 
>>>>>>>>>>> dialog
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> which option are you using?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 13:15, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. For now, i just need the pdf file. So, if you are
>>>>>>>>>>>> saying it is already being saved, that's perfect!  However, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> could not
>>>>>>>>>>>> find it anywhere on my machine. For example, when i saved the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> image to file Lenta.pdf, it appears among the files attributed to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting room, but I could not find Lenta.pdf anywhere on the hard 
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive...
>>>>>>>>>>>> and downloading it from the meeting room is disabled (I still can 
>>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>> the files that I uploaded, but not pdf image of the board).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> An unrelated question. I took about one entire day to translate
>>>>>>>>>>>> all of the interface into the Lithuanian language. So, now I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> OM in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lithuanian, for some of the very few (senior-age) users who are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> still not
>>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable with English.  Do you want me to send you the *_lt* 
>>>>>>>>>>>> file for
>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusion in OM asortiment of languages?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 20:51 Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIR save whiteboard as PDF is implemented via download PDF
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you are talking about "Save whiteboard"? it saves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard to the tree, BUT this is NOT PDF ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is JSON and I'm not sure why do you need to download it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 22:22, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Maxim and Thomas,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I installed the latest OM afresh, not updating the old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. So, Applications Context file should be current. I did 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT edit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My uploaded files can be downloaded without a problem at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the PDF files saved from the whiteboard --- not at all... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as that indicated by Thomas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Thomas Scholzen <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CC: *Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Received: *Oct 27, 2020 10:45:19
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Download whiteboard file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, after upload I can download a PDF. But not a PDF that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was generated from the whiteboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.10.2020 14:57, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just have tested on https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded PDF is downloadable as "PDF" and "Original"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 20:27, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by design downloadable types are: images, documents and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recordings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whiteboard saved as PNG or PDF should be downloadable, will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to double-check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 19:57, Thomas Scholzen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked in detail. I can download .jpg, .pdf, .rtf. and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .doc files after I uploaded them. I can not download .avi files 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh upload) and .pdf files generated by saving the whiteboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.10.2020 13:30, schrieb Thomas Scholzen:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked and I also can not download documents from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder view. However, I can download the content of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard by using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "actions" from the menu and "download as PDF".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.10.2020 08:58, schrieb Robert Savickas:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am sure the question below has already been asked, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably falls into the category of silly questions. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless, I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask, as I need to use this feature in a meeting that occurs in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did some work in the whiteboard and saved it in a pdf file,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which appears in the list of files for the given meeting room. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I try to download it to the local disk of my Ubuntu 20.04 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download button seems disabled. I have been trying to figure it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems in vain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am the administrator; so, have all the rights...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>

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Best regards,
Maxim

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