It seems I understand less and less with each email in this thread :( Are there any other Moodle plugin users who follow this thread?
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 21:08, Ali Alhaidary <[email protected]> wrote: > In moodle, to use an application (called plugin) there are three steps: > > 1. install the plugin. > > 2. create an activity of that plugin in the class page. > > 3. use this created activity. > > In OM case, > > 1. we install the plugin, and currently, a new group called module is > created, what I am suggesting is not to create this group at this stage. > > 2. create an activity of any type other than 'Show Recording' with > 'suffix' added, only then a new group is created in OM database called > module+suffix. > > 3. when the teacher uses this activity he will see an empty module+suffix > group in his tree list (that used to see module group only) > > 4. He records the lesson, which will be saved in 'my recordings', and > after the recording is ready, he will rename it and move it to > 'module+suffix' group. > > We usually do not want students to enter the room just to attend the > recorded lesson, so the teacher will create an activity of any type 'Show > Recording' with 'suffix' selected (not added, because if he did not create > the activity as per step 2, this list will be empty and the activity can > not be created), and the list of recordings will be displayed to be > selected. > > On 2/11/21 4:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 20:44, Ali Alhaidary <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> On 2/11/21 4:19 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 21:29, Ali Alhaidary <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> 1. Teacher fills the form of new OM activity with suffix field, and save >>> it (see attached in red), at this time, new group is created in OM database >>> with the name 'module+suffix' >>> >> true >> >>> 2. A new OM activity is created on his course page. >>> >> true >> >>> 3. Teacher clicks on this activity, enters OM room, do the recording and >>> exit. >>> >> true >> >>> 4. Teacher creates new OM activity with 'Show recording' with the same >>> suffix field, and only then he can select recordings >>> >> NOT true >> >> As I wrote 2 times before >> this activity need to be saved "with suffix" >> then opened >> and only the second time recording list will contain correct recording >> .... >> this is the problem >> >> The activity is saved with 'suffix' as per step 1, and executed (opened) >> as per step 3, where is the problem ? >> > > I always thought activity of type room is created > then NEW activity of type recording is created > I wonder which of two use-case is more common? ... > >> >> I do know when recording list is generated, however, I do know that >>> recording will be visible after recording :-) >>> On 2/10/21 4:56 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 20:30, Ali Alhaidary <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 2/10/21 4:19 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>> >>>> I'll clean-up some context >>>> >>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 20:01, Ali Alhaidary < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> In fact - no :( >>>>> >>>>> recordings created at "moodle-ENG101" will not be visible while key is >>>>> "moodle" and the `suffix` is empty >>>>> to see them >>>>> teacher will need to create activity (with suffix) >>>>> save it >>>>> then edit >>>>> >>>>> this looks to me as bad UX :( >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you can suggest how it can be improved? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, you are absolutely right, the teacher needs to create an activity >>>>> with 'suffix' mandatory field, and then he use this activity, enter the >>>>> room and do recording, only after that, the recording is visible. >>>>> >>>> >>>> here is the problem >>>> what exactly do you mean by "after that, the recording is visible." ? >>>> >>>> After the teacher does the recording, it should (would) be visible in a >>>> new activity created with the same suffix for recordings only. >>>> >>> >>> OK, let's start from the beginning :) >>> >>> The recordings list is created on server at the very beginning >>> this means >>> 1) teacher clicks "Add activity" >>> - recording list is created based on "Module key" only (there is no >>> suffix for new activity) >>> - at this point teacher can't select "suffixed" recordings from the >>> list >>> 3) he/she adds suffix, and saves the activity >>> 4) click edit >>> - recording list is created based on "Module key" and "suffix" >>> >>> this is what I call bad UX :( >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > -- Best regards, Maxim
