On Saturday 11 April 2015 12:20:59 Wes Kussmaul wrote: > Hi Sonali Jagdish, > > Probably the first thing we should do is learn a little about each other. > > The company where my email is hosted, Reliable Identities, Inc. is a > member of a group of startups called the Authenticity Alliance > http://www.authenticityalliance.com/ . You can read about our common > platform, the Quiet Enjoyment Infrastructure, at that site. > > Can you tell me about your affiliation? What would be the entity making > use of the client software we're discussing? > > Perhaps we can schedule a call? > > All the best, > > Wes Kussmaul
Also note that work on client side encryption for ownCloud is actually happening. Cheers, Jos > On 04/10/2015 07:48 PM, Sonali Jagdish wrote: > > yes we are interested in helping you building a multipurpose client > > .could you instruct us on how to go about this/ > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Wes Kussmaul <[email protected] > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > This and the previous question raised by Sonali Jagdish about > > client-side encryption is a good one. Here's what the ownCloud FAQ > > has to say: > > > > "ownCloud does not do client-side encryption because you can not > > have a web interface if the server can't read the files and the > > web interface (and sharing abilities!) are very central to > > ownCloud. So you will always need to be able to trust the server > > if you want to 'own' your data." > > > > So allow me to share with this list what I had to say on the > > Authenticity Alliance list about those questions and the ownCloud > > response: > > > > "*Using the browser, ie an outdoor billboard, as a bank branch or > > retail store or private office or elementary school classroom is a > > design atrocity. It is positively bizarre. You can be 100% sure > > that breaches will become worse until some thought leader says, > > "shouldn't we be looking for a secure multipurpose client to > > replace the browser?" * > > > > Many assumptions behind the web+browser infrastructure are > > entirely inappropriate for a world that calls for secure sharing > > of information, retail transactions, and pretty much anything you > > wouldn't do on an outdoor billboard. > > > > If you're interested in helping us build a multipurpose client > > ("unbrowser") that will allow you to keep your own encryption keys > > at the client end and which will use much of the same "rendering > > paint" and UX tools as a browser, maintaining compatibility with > > ownCloud and other applications, please be in touch with us. > > > > Wes Kussmaul > > > > On 04/08/2015 12:51 PM, Sonali Jagdish wrote: > >> hi, > >> > >> Instead of using any of the encryption tools is there any way > >> > >> by which we could modify the existing code to support client side > >> encryption because we are looking at modifying the source code to > >> support client side encryption. > >> Thank you > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Henk <[email protected] > >> > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> There are some free encrytion tools that can be used to > >> synchronize and encrypt ownCloud folders locally. > >> CryptSync is one of them. It uses 7-Zip and it creates 7-Zip > >> files that can even be openend easily when the encryption key > >> is known. > >> Your non-encrypted files will be in a CryptSync folder and > >> the encrypted files will be in the folder synced by ownCloud. > >> Cloudfogger and Viivo can possibly be used as well. I would > >> not try Boxcryptor, because it damaged my Windows 7 Pro HDD > >> encryption. > >> One year ago I tested these tools with Google Drive. > >> The ownCloud data files are in the path > >> ../owncloud/data/"username"/files. > >> When the encryption app is "on", the encryprtion keys are in > >> a folder like ../owncloud/data/"username"/files_encryption. > >> Just look around there. > >> Henk > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> *From:* Sonali Jagdish <mailto:[email protected]> > >> *To:* For users of ownCloud <mailto:[email protected]> > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:39 PM > >> *Subject:* Re: [owncloud-user] regarding owncloud encryption > >> > >> could you please a suggest ways by which we can implement > >> encryption at the client side as in give client an option > >> whether to encrypt files or not?also that i wanted to > >> know one thing regarding server side encryption.When the > >> sever chooses the option of encrypting the clients data > >> which file in the owncloud core folder is actually called > >> as i'm unable to trace that > >> thank you > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Daniel Molkentin > >> > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> On 08.04.2015 16:01, Sonali Jagdish wrote: > >> > Why is that encryption globally dirven in owncloud > >> > >> and not > >> > >> > indiavidually driven as in why is there no > >> > >> provision for client side > >> > >> > encryption > >> > >> https://owncloud.org/faq/#encryption2 > >> > >> HTH, > >> > >> Daniel > >> > >> -- > >> www.owncloud.com <http://www.owncloud.com> - Your > >> Data, Your Cloud, Your Way! > >> > >> ownCloud GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, Holger Dyroff > >> Schloßäckerstrasse 26a, 90443 Nürnberg, HRB 28050 (AG > >> Nürnberg) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> User mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ----------- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> User mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> User mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> User mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/user > > > > Wes Kussmaul > > The Authenticity Institute > > 738 Main Street > > Waltham, MA 02451 > > > > office +1 781 790 1674 > > mobile +1 781 330 1881 > > > > “Try this fruit, and by the way if a bunch of people collectively > > calling themselves Arthur Andersen signs something it’s the same as > > if a person named Arthur Andersen signed it.”> > > - The Serpent > > > > _______________________________________________ > > User mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/user > > > > _______________________________________________ > > User mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Jos Poortvliet ([email protected]) ownCloud Community Manager ownCloud GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, Holger Dyroff, Frank Karlitschek Schloßäckerstrasse 26a, 90443 Nürnberg, HRB 28050 (AG Nürnberg)
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