On Monday 28 December 2015 00:22:34 Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Sunday 27 December 2015 14:30:20 Chris wrote: > > > owncloud 7.04 > > By all means, do provide the full version number: > owncloud 7.0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u3 > > > > 1.7.0~beta1+really1.6.4+dfsg-1+deb8u1 > > > > i'm strongly suggest to not use such outdated versions of oC and the sync > > client as both contains various serious bugs and security issues. > > That is a statement which is not backed up by facts. The '+deb8u' part > would've told you that there were security updates. > For full details, see > http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/o/owncloud/owncloud_7 > .0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u3_changelog
ownCloud 7.0.x is the oldest version still supported, though it is at a much later release than 7.0.4 and even if Debian decided to backport security fixes I'd argue it is a bad idea to run that. The misguided policy of not updating to even bugfix releases which some distributions have is nothing but harmful for users in my opinion. I wrote a blog about this at some point: https://owncloud.org/blog/linux-distributions-and-open-source-projects/ Meanwhile, the 1.7 client IS certainly outdated and no longer supported, as is anything older than 1.9. In general, the statement by Chris that it is unwise to use such old versions isn't untrue. While ownCloud 7 and the 1.7 client releases weren't bad, they are outdated from a performance, stability and data safety point of view. We've moved on and have higher standards today ;-) I could get the argument that from a data safety pov, 8.1 is more tested than 8.2 and thus more safe. I would not really agree with somebody arguing that for 8.0 and for 7.0 I'd just don't think it is true. Since that release, our user base has grown, our automated and human testing has massively improved and most of our user and certainly developer base has moved to newer releases which get more scrutiny and fixes. Note that we generally only port bugfixes and stability improvements to the latest stable and latest stable-1 release so there is, from a stability POV, very little reason to run 8.0 or 7.0. As I said, you are running something which arguably has been tested LESS than a more recent release. Of course security and super serious fixes ARE back ported to older releases. If 7.0.x is running satisfactory, I can imagine you don't want to change and that is fine for about another 2 months (until 7.0.x is deprecated). However, if you experience any trouble, any advice other than 'upgrade' is probably unwise: I don't think it is worth the trouble of trying to fix issues with 7.0 when you will have to upgrade to 8.0 in 2 months anyway. Oh and upgrading from 7.0.4 to 8.0.x is a BAD idea. Ignore your Debian packages, install our ownCloud packages for 7.0.11 or whatever is latest because you risk your upgrade breaking everything. Did I mention you should not use distribution packages for ownCloud server and client? Cheers, Jos -- Disclaimer: Everything I do and say is based on my view of the world today. I am not responsible for changes in the world, nor my view on it. Everything I say is meant in a positive and friendly way, unless explicitly stated otherwise. find me on blog.jospoortvliet.com
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