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On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:

I wasn't quite sure what title this, but hopefully it'll make sense. I have a couple of questions relating to a query that ultimately seeks to do this

You have

1 10
1 12
1 15
1 16
2 1
2 2
2 3
2 6

You want your output to be the difference between the successive numbers in
the second column, ie

1 (10,0)
1 (12,2)
1 (15,3)
1 (15,1)
2 (1,0)
2 (2,1)
2 (3,1)
2 (6,3)

Obviously, I need to write a udf to do this, but I have a couple questions..

1) if we know for a fact that the rows for a given first column will ALWAYS be on the same node, do we need to do anything to take advantage of that? My assumption would be that the group operation would be smart enough to take care of this, but I am not sure how it avoids checking to make sure that other nodes don't have additional info (even if I can say for a fact that they don't). Then again, given replication of data I guess if you do an operation on the grouped data it might still try and distribute that over
the filesystem?

First, whether they are located in the same node does not matter. What matters is whether they will all be in the same split when the maps are started. If they are stored in an HDFS file this usually means that they are all in the same block.

Group by cannot know a priori that all values of the key will be located in the same split. As of Pig 0.7 you can tell Pig this by saying "using 'collected'" after the group by statement. See http://pig.apache.org/docs/r0.8.0/piglatin_ref2.html#GROUP for exact syntax and restrictions. This tells Pig to do the grouping in the map phase since it does not need to do a shuffle and reduce to collect all the keys together.


2) The number of values in the second column can potentially be large, and I
want this process to be quick, so what's the best way to implement it?
Naively I would say to group everything, then pass that bag to a UDF which sorts, does the calculation, and then returns a new bag with the tuples.
This doesn't seem like it is taking advantage of a distributed
framework...would splitting it up into 2 UDF's, one which sorts the bag, and then another which returns the tuples (and now that it's sorted, you could
distribute it better), be better?

B = group A by firstfield;
C = foreach B {
        C1 = order A by secondfield;
        generate group, youudf(C1);
}

The order inside the foreach will order each collection by the second field, so there's no need to write a UDF for that. In fact Pig will take advantage of the secondary sort in MR so that there isn't even a separate sorting pass over the data. yourudf should then implement the Accumulator interface so that it will receive collections of records in batches that will be sorted.

Alan.


I'm trying to avoid writing my own MR (as I never have before), but am not averse to it if necessary. I am just not sure of how to get pig to do it as
efficiently as (I think) it can be done.

I appreciate your help!
Jon

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