Actually, given the nature of my Query data I might just pack a few bloom
filters and stream Document through a udf, I've got plenty of data and can
guard against mistakes downstream.
It's wonderful what leaving the office and getting on the bus does for your
thought process....
Mat
On Aug 29, 2012 5:14 PM, "Mat Kelcey" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Unfortunately neither side is small enough to either support a cross or a
> replicated join in memory approach.
>
> But opt3 does make sense, I think I'm over thinking things. I can utilise
> a udf to do the equivalent of tokenisation and do, like you say, just a
> join.
>
> In terms of the multiple joins I can just do all three, count the matches,
> and only allow the cases of all three matching
>
> Thanks!
> Mat
> On Aug 29, 2012 5:06 PM, "Jonathan Coveney" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You're not missing anything obvious... what you're trying to do, on face
>> value, is not an easy thing to do. In M/R, joining is done based on
>> partitioning to the same reducer...how can you do that if you have a case
>>
>> foo
>> bar
>>
>> foo bar
>>
>> and foo is sent to reducer 1, bar to reducer 2? There's no way to know
>> where keys should be sent.
>>
>> That said, there are options.
>>
>> Option 1: a cross. Undesirable because of data explosion.
>> Option 2: If one of the data sets is large enough to fit in memory, you
>> can
>> make a UDF that brings it in, and does the join for you. This is
>> essentially option 1.
>> Option 3: Less generically, exploit the join you're actually doing. In the
>> dummy example, it looks like you're checking if a token is contained in
>> another string. You could convert this into a join by tokenizing,
>> flattening, doing the join, etc. I don't know how close your real use case
>> is to what you posted.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> 2012/8/29 Mat Kelcey <[email protected]>
>>
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > Considering the following two relations...
>> >
>> > grunt> querys = load 'query' as (id:int, token:chararray);
>> > grunt> dump querys
>> > (11,foo)
>> > (12,bar)
>> > (13,frog)
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > grunt> documents = load 'document' as (id:int, text:chararray);
>> > grunt> dump documents;
>> > (21,foo bar frog)
>> > (22,hello frog)
>> >
>> > Is is possible to do a join where the query:token is not equal to but
>> > contained in documents:text ?
>> >
>> > eg
>> > (11,foo,21,foo bar frog)
>> > (12,bar,21,foo bar frog)
>> > (13,frog,21,foo bar frog)
>> > (13,frog,22,hello frog)
>> >
>> > I can certainly do this in Java map/reduce (as we all had to in the
>> > dark days days before pig) but is there a way to hack this together
>> > with a custom udf or some other weird join backdoor (customer
>> > partitioner for a group or something whacky) ???
>> >
>> > It's been a long day, maybe I'm just missing some super obvious..
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> > Mat
>> >
>>
>

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