Thanks Bill! I didn't see that documentation--only the javadoc, which for
Pig 9.1 definitely doesn't explain that. I realize now I really shouldn't
be trusting a Google search for pig-related documentation because the
search engine seems to get confused by all the versions.

I also eventually realized what this (from the javadoc) means: "Generates
the count of the number of values in a bag. This count does not include
null values, and thus matches SQL semantics for COUNT(a) (where a is field)
but not for COUNT(*) (where * in SQL indicates all)."--COUNT is supposed to
run over a single field. I think it's bad for the documentation to conflate
the two meanings of "null value". For what it's worth, in regards to the
jira proposal, I think if it retains its current behavior, COUNT should
error if the tuple size is greater than 1.

Okay, next question:

Say I'm doing counts on votes cast for student government at a large
university. Every position (president, vice president, down to dozens of
senators) is optional: a student can vote for them or not vote for them.
Many students don't vote, but the data I have reads that as a tuple of
nulls. I want to group on president and vice president and count all the
records where not every field is null (i.e., I want my counts to include
one for the number of students who voted for some office, but neither
president or vice president). I can't use COUNT_STAR, because it would
count the non-voters (I think). I can't use COUNT, because all students who
didn't vote for whatever column I passed in (or whatever column was first)
would get dropped. Filtering on $0 is not null or $1 is not null etc would
get really cumbersome, since I have dozens of fields. Is there a better
solution?

Thanks!

Adair

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Bill Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

> This behavior is discussed in the count docs:
>
> http://pig.apache.org/docs/r0.10.0/func.html#count
>
> The COUNT function follows syntax semantics and ignores nulls. What this
> means is that a tuple in the bag will not be counted if the FIRST FIELD in
> this tuple is NULL. If you want to include NULL values in the count
> computation, use
> COUNT_STAR<http://pig.apache.org/docs/r0.10.0/func.html#COUNT-STAR>
> .
>
> There is a proposal to change this though, which provides more context:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1014
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Adair Kovac <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, correcting an imprecision here--field1 is the first field of the
> > records that have been grouped; that it's the first field in the key is
> > nonessential. So basically *any* group/count that I have done in the past
> > could have been dropping records because the first field happened to be
> > something I didn't care about at the time that could be null. I am
> > distressed by this realization.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Adair
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Adair Kovac <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, guys, was wondering what's going on with this.
> > >
> > > In pig 0.9 if I do something like this:
> > >
> > > grouped = group data by (field1, field2);
> > > count = foreach grouped generate COUNT(data);
> > >
> > > That count is 0 wherever field1 is null regardless of what comes after.
> > >
> > > I can use COUNT_STAR() instead (data fresh from a group won't have any
> > > null records, right?), but it seems like that should be the expected
> > > behavior of COUNT().
> > >
> > > This was obviously intended behavior, since it's right there in the
> > > function:
> > >
> > > if (t != null && t.size() > 0 && t.get(0) != null )
> > >                             cnt++;
> > >
> > > but it just seems bizarre and inconvenient to me. Nor is it mentioned
> in
> > > the documentation, unless the bit written for people who are good at
> SQL
> > > implies it. Now I'm wondering which of my past scripts might be buggy
> > > because I didn't expect this behavior.
> > >
> > > Anyone have an explanation?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Adair
> > >
> >
>
>
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