I was just thinking of how to achieve the simple task to get a javascript like 
alert(), where the business logic stops until the user closes the alert.
And here is was I'm suggesting and this works:

import java.util.concurrent.Semaphore;

import org.apache.pivot.wtk.Dialog;
import org.apache.pivot.wtk.DialogStateListener;

public class Model implements Runnable {
        private static App gui;
        private Model() {}
        
        @Override
        public void run() {
                // The business logic
                BlockingNotifier.alert("Wait, I've stopped the business logic");
                System.out.println("ok now I run again");
                BlockingNotifier.alert("bye");
        }
        
        public static void start(App app) {
                gui = app;
                new Thread(new Model()).start();
        }
        
        private static class BlockingNotifier {
                private static Semaphore lock = new Semaphore(0);

                public static void alert(String txt) {
                        DialogStateListener listener = new 
DialogStateListener.Adapter() {      
                                @Override
                                public void dialogClosed(Dialog arg0, boolean 
arg1) {
                                        lock.release();
                                }
                        };
                        gui.openDialog(txt, listener);
                        try {
                                lock.acquire();
                        } catch (InterruptedException e) {
                                e.printStackTrace();
                        }
                }
        }
}

import org.apache.pivot.collections.Map;
import org.apache.pivot.wtk.*;

public class App implements Application {
        private BoxPane content = new BoxPane();
        Frame frame = new Frame();
        
        @Override
        public void resume() throws Exception {}

        @Override
        public boolean shutdown(boolean arg0) throws Exception {
                return false;
        }

        @Override
        public void startup(Display arg0, Map<String, String> arg1)
                        throws Exception {
                frame.open(arg0);
                frame.setContent(content);
                Model.start(this);
        }

        @Override
        public void suspend() throws Exception {}
        
        public static void main(String[] args) {
                DesktopApplicationContext.main(App.class, args);
        }

        public void openDialog(String txt, DialogStateListener listener) {
                Dialog dialog = new Dialog();
                dialog.setContent(new Label(txt));
                dialog.open(frame);
                dialog.getDialogStateListeners().add(listener);
        }
}



On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Greg Brown wrote:

> I'm not sure exactly what you are suggesting here. All UI-related operations 
> must occur on the EDT. This includes model updates as well as business logic. 
> 
> You can execute any task in the background, but you must always notify the UI 
> by calling ApplicationContext.queueCallback(). You shouldn't ever call into 
> the UI directly from another thread.
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Andreas Siegrist wrote:
> 
>> It's impossible.
>> So you should keep the gui and your model+logic in seperate threads.
>> It's the only way to do the thing you want.
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Clint Gilbert wrote:
>> 
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>>> Yeah, that's the behavior I saw when I tried a solution like Andreas's
>>> using a CountDownLatch or a Lock/Condition pair. :(
>>> 
>>> Todd Volkert wrote:
>>>> But the dialog is opened on the EDT, meaning that you'll lock up the UI 
>>>> thread, and the UI will appear to hang.
>>>> 
>>>> -T
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Andreas Siegrist 
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> I'm sorry I think I've misunderstood your questions.
>>>> So if you want to do that:
>>>> new Dialog("ajsdfoj");
>>>> System.out.println("I'm 100% sure that the Dialog is closed now!");
>>>> 
>>>> try it with this class:
>>>> 
>>>> import java.util.concurrent.Semaphore;
>>>> 
>>>> import org.apache.pivot.wtk.Dialog;
>>>> import org.apache.pivot.wtk.DialogCloseListener;
>>>> import org.apache.pivot.wtk.Display;
>>>> import org.apache.pivot.wtk.Window;
>>>> 
>>>> public class BlockingDialog extends Dialog {
>>>>     static Semaphore lock = new Semaphore(0);
>>>> 
>>>>     public void open(Display display, Window owner, boolean modal) {
>>>>                     DialogCloseListener closeListener = new 
>>>> DialogCloseListener() {
>>>>                             @Override
>>>>                             public void dialogClosed(Dialog arg0, boolean 
>>>> arg1) {
>>>>                                     lock.release();
>>>>                             }
>>>>                     };
>>>>                     open(display, owner, modal, closeListener);
>>>> 
>>>>                     try {
>>>>                             lock.acquire();
>>>>                     } catch (InterruptedException e) {
>>>>                             e.printStackTrace();
>>>>                     }
>>>>     }
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Clint Gilbert wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks very much, I'll try this out later.  I tried similar strategies
>>>> with different util.concurrent primitives, but never with a Semaphore in
>>>> this way.
>>>> 
>>>> Andreas Siegrist wrote:
>>>>>>> like that:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> import java.util.concurrent.Semaphore;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> import org.apache.pivot.wtk.Dialog;
>>>>>>> import org.apache.pivot.wtk.DialogCloseListener;
>>>>>>> import org.apache.pivot.wtk.Display;
>>>>>>> import org.apache.pivot.wtk.Window;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> public class DialogProxy extends Dialog {
>>>>>>>   static Semaphore lock = new Semaphore(1);
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   public void open(Display display, Window owner, boolean modal) {
>>>>>>>           try {
>>>>>>>                   lock.acquire();
>>>>>>>                   DialogCloseListener closeListener = new 
>>>>>>> DialogCloseListener() {
>>>>>>>                           @Override
>>>>>>>                           public void dialogClosed(Dialog arg0, boolean 
>>>>>>> arg1) {
>>>>>>>                                   lock.release();
>>>>>>>                           }
>>>>>>>                   };
>>>>>>>                   open(display, owner, modal, closeListener);
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>           } catch (InterruptedException e) {
>>>>>>>                   e.printStackTrace();
>>>>>>>           }
>>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Clint Gilbert wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could you elaborate on this please?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Andreas Siegrist wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi there
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I also did something like that
>>>>>>>>>> All I needed to do is making a Proxy class with a synchronized 
>>>>>>>>>> method.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Christopher Brind wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't really about being modal, but about stopping the flow of 
>>>>>>>>>>> execution.  For example, in Javascript:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Alert.show("hello");
>>>>>>>>>>> Alert.show("world");
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The second alert doesn't appear until you press OK on the first.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In Pivot or Swing (and every other UI framework?) if you popup an 
>>>>>>>>>>> Alert processing continues, for instance in Flex:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Alert.show("hello");
>>>>>>>>>>> Alert.show("world");
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The second alert appears immediately and on top of the previous one.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Clint wants to achieve the first scenario, but this is not possible 
>>>>>>>>>>> with Pivot.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/26 Bob Santos 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If I'm not mistaken, in Swing, you can create confirm 
>>>>>>>>>>> dialogs(Yes/No), message dialogs or option dialogs by using 
>>>>>>>>>>> JOptionPane and also I think they are by default modal(?), which 
>>>>>>>>>>> means access to other part of the application is not allowed until 
>>>>>>>>>>> interaction with the active dialog is done.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You can also create your custom dialog by extending Dialog and 
>>>>>>>>>>> specifying the modality.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And yes it helps to know that everything you want to do with the UI 
>>>>>>>>>>> should be done within the EDT as Greg stated.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Greg Brown 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clint,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, my question: Is it possible to achieve behavior like the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript's alert() function with Pivot?  That is, I'd like to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> put up a
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple yes/no "do something"/"please don't" popup on the screen, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> have the app block - the alert doesn't just block input to other
>>>>>>>>>>>> elements - until the user chooses an option, or closes the popup.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>> is possible in SWT, I don't know about Swing.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, it is not possible - as you noted, Window#open() is not a 
>>>>>>>>>>> blocking call in WTK. Pivot is ultimately based on AWT, which uses 
>>>>>>>>>>> a push model for event notifications (vs. pull). If you were to 
>>>>>>>>>>> call a blocking method from a user input event such as a button 
>>>>>>>>>>> press, no further event processing could occur until that method 
>>>>>>>>>>> had returned, and the entire UI would appear to freeze.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I personally don't mind the anonymous inner class syntax:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> dialog.open(owner, new DialogCloseListener() {
>>>>>>>>>>>   @Override
>>>>>>>>>>>   public void dialogClosed(Dialog dialog, boolean modal) {
>>>>>>>>>>>       // Get selected option and act on it
>>>>>>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I actually think this reflects a pretty consistent design - you 
>>>>>>>>>>> open the dialog in response to one event (e.g. "button pressed"), 
>>>>>>>>>>> and you handle the dialog's result in response to another event 
>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g. "dialog closed").
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Making the call to Dialog.open() from another thread doesn't have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> any effect.
>>>>>>>>>>> Note that, as in Swing, multi-threaded access to UI elements is not 
>>>>>>>>>>> supported. All UI operations must be performed on the EDT.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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