I guess you guys have some ideas about what the basic app should look
like. I just created a Frame with a small form for now.


My suggestion would be.... as little as possible; it's great as it is.
There's negligible amount of cruft to remove to go on and make my app
from this as the base.

I agree with this - I find most quickstart projects add too much cruft and you just end up deleting it anyway :) Pivot has excellent examples and tutorials to help you learn almost every bit of the platform, so you can easily add your own stuff fast.

It took me a couple of hours to read through the tutorials and understand how stuff worked, and I was productive right off the bat. It took a little getting used to that Pivot does not try to solve every problem for you, it's basically a very complete UI framework, and leaves the rest up to you. I've done both Eclipse RCP and Netbeans Platform development, and I find I use too much time implementing interfaces and dancing after the framework's pipe instead of working on my problem domain, but with Pivot, there is almost no ceremony, you just go on and do your stuff :)

-- Edvin

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